From: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf] bpf: invalidate unused part of bpf_prog_pack
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:51:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8F788446-899C-4BA3-8236-612A94D98582@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wi62LDc5B3DOr5pyVtOUOuLkLzHvmZQApH9q=raqaGkUg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Linus,
> On Apr 21, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 2:53 PM Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com> wrote:
>>
>> However, we cannot really use the same function at free time. The
>> huge page is RO+X at free time, but we are only zeroing out a chunk
>> of it. So regular memset/memcpy won’t work. Instead, we will need
>> something like bpf_arch_text_copy().
>
> I actually think bpf_arch_text_copy() is another horribly badly done thing.
>
> It seems only implemented on x86 (I'm not sure how anything else is
> supposed to work, I didn't go look), and there it is horribly badly
> done, using __text_poke() that does all these magical things just to
> make it atomic wrt concurrent code execution.
>
> None of which is *AT*ALL* relevant for this case, since concurrent
> code execution simply isn't a thing (and if it were, you would already
> have lost).
>
> And if that wasn't pointless enough, it does all that magic "map the
> page writably at a different virtual address using poking_addr in
> poking_mm" and a different address space entirely.
>
> All of that is required for REAL KERNEL CODE.
>
> But the thing is, for bpf_prog_pack, all of that is just completely
> pointless and stupid complexity.
>
> We already *have* the other non-executable address that is writable:
> it's the actual pages that got vmalloc'ed. Just use vmalloc_to_page()
> and it's RIGHT THERE.
I think this won’t work, as set_memory_ro makes all the aliases of
these pages read only. We can probably add set_memory_ro_noalias(),
which will be similar to set_memory_np_noalias(). This approach was
NACKed by Peter[1]. So we went with the bpf_arch_text_copy approach.
If we can loosen the W^X requirement for BPF programs, other parts
of bpf_prog_pack could also be simplified.
Thanks,
Song
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20211116080051.GU174703@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net/
>
> At which point you just use the same bpf_jit_fill_hole() function, and
> you're done.
>
> In other words, all of this seems excessively stupidly done, for no
> good reason. It's only making it much too complicated, and just not
> doing the right thing at all.
>
> Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-21 22:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20220421072212.608884-1-song@kernel.org>
2022-04-21 17:09 ` [PATCH bpf] bpf: invalidate unused part of bpf_prog_pack Linus Torvalds
2022-04-21 18:24 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-04-21 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-21 19:40 ` Song Liu
2022-04-21 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-21 21:52 ` Song Liu
2022-04-21 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-21 22:51 ` Song Liu [this message]
2022-04-21 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-22 1:31 ` Song Liu
2022-04-22 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-23 5:25 ` Song Liu
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