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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFCv1 7/7] KVM: unmap guest memory using poisoned pages
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 16:18:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a845f8e-295b-1445-382c-75277ade45ae@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210409141211.wfbyzflj7ygtx7ex@box.shutemov.name>

On 09.04.21 16:12, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 03:50:42PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> 3. Allow selected users to still grab the pages (esp. KVM to fault them into
>>>> the page tables).
>>>
>>> As long as fault leads to non-present PTEs we are fine. Usespace still may
>>> want to mlock() some of guest memory. There's no reason to prevent this.
>>
>> I'm curious, even get_user_pages() will lead to a present PTE as is, no? So
>> that will need modifications I assume. (although I think it fundamentally
>> differs to the way get_user_pages() works - trigger a fault first, then
>> lookup the PTE in the page tables).
> 
> For now, the patch has two step poisoning: first fault in, on the add to
> shadow PTE -- poison. By the time VM has chance to use the page it's
> poisoned and unmapped from the host userspace.

IIRC, this then assumes that while a page is protected, it will remain 
mapped into the NPT; because, there is no way to remap into NPT later 
because the pages have already been poisoned.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


      reply	other threads:[~2021-04-09 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-02 15:26 [RFCv1 0/7] TDX and guest memory unmapping Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-02 15:26 ` [RFCv1 1/7] x86/mm: Move force_dma_unencrypted() to common code Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-02 15:26 ` [RFCv1 2/7] x86/kvm: Introduce KVM memory protection feature Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-08  9:52   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-09 13:36     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-09 14:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-02 15:26 ` [RFCv1 3/7] x86/kvm: Make DMA pages shared Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-02 15:26 ` [RFCv1 4/7] x86/kvm: Use bounce buffers for KVM memory protection Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-02 15:26 ` [RFCv1 5/7] x86/kvmclock: Share hvclock memory with the host Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-02 15:26 ` [RFCv1 6/7] x86/realmode: Share trampoline area if KVM memory protection enabled Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-02 15:26 ` [RFCv1 7/7] KVM: unmap guest memory using poisoned pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-06  7:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-06 10:50     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-06 14:33     ` Dave Hansen
2021-04-06 14:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-07 13:16         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-07 13:31           ` Christophe de Dinechin
2021-04-07 14:09             ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-07 14:09           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-07 14:36             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-06 17:52       ` Tom Lendacky
2021-04-07 14:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-07 15:10     ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-09 13:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-09 13:50       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-09 14:12         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-04-09 14:18           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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