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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, "Tang, Feng" <feng.tang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6 v2] Calculate pcp->high based on zone sizes and active CPUs
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 12:21:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d6dfad6-ae0b-fd47-1d83-23baf82921b4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210528100918.GM30378@techsingularity.net>

On 28.05.21 12:09, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 11:52:53AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> "Disable pcplists so that page isolation cannot race with freeing
>>>>    in a way that pages from isolated pageblock are left on pcplists."
>>>>
>>>> Guess we'd then want to move the draining before start_isolate_page_range()
>>>> in alloc_contig_range().
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or instead of draining, validate the PFN range in alloc_contig_range
>>> is within the same zone and if so, call zone_pcp_disable() before
>>> start_isolate_page_range and enable after __alloc_contig_migrate_range.
>>>
>>
>> We require the caller to only pass a range within a single zone, so that
>> should be fine.
>>
>> The only ugly thing about zone_pcp_disable() is
>> mutex_lock(&pcp_batch_high_lock) which would serialize all
>> alloc_contig_range() and even with offline_pages().
>>
> 
> True so it would have to be accessed if that is bad or not. If racing
> against offline_pages, memory is potentially being offlined in the
> target zone which may cause allocation failure. If racing with other
> alloc_contig_range calls, the two callers are potentially racing to
> isolate and allocate the same range. The arguement could be made that
> alloc_contig_ranges should be serialised within one zone to improve the
> allocation success rate at the potential cost of allocation latency.

We have 3 main users of alloc_contig_range():

1. CMA

CMA synchronizes allocation within a CMA area via the allocation bitmap. 
So parallel CMA is perfectly possible and avoids races by design.

2. alloc_contig_pages() / Gigantic pages

Gigantic page allocation could race with virtio-mem. CMA does not apply. 
Possible but unlikely to matter in practice. virtio-mem will retry later 
again.

3. virito-mem

A virtio-mem device only operates on its assigned memory region, so we 
cannot have alloc_contig_range() from different devices racing, even 
when within a single zone. It could only race with gigantic pages as CMA 
does not apply.


So serializing would mostly harm parallel CMA (possible and likely) and 
parallel virtio-mem operation (e.g., unplug memory of two virtio-mem 
devices -- unlikely but possible).


Memory offlining racing with CMA is not an issue (impossible). 
virtio-mem synchronizes with memory offlining via memory notifiers, 
there is only a tiny little race window that usually doesn't matter as 
virtio-mem is expected to usually triggers offlining itself, and not 
user space rancomly. Memory offlining can race with dynamic gigantic 
page allocation, wich is highly unreliable already.

I wonder if we could optimize locking in zone_pcp_disable() instead.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-28 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-25  8:01 Mel Gorman
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/page_alloc: Delete vm.percpu_pagelist_fraction Mel Gorman
2021-05-26 17:41   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/page_alloc: Disassociate the pcp->high from pcp->batch Mel Gorman
2021-05-26 18:14   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-27 10:52     ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 10:27       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/page_alloc: Adjust pcp->high after CPU hotplug events Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:08   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/page_alloc: Scale the number of pages that are batch freed Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:19   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm/page_alloc: Limit the number of pages on PCP lists when reclaim is active Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:43   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-25  8:01 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/page_alloc: Introduce vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 11:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-28 12:53     ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 14:38       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-27 19:36 ` [PATCH 0/6 v2] Calculate pcp->high based on zone sizes and active CPUs Dave Hansen
2021-05-28  8:55   ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28  9:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-28  9:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-28  9:49         ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28  9:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-28 10:09             ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 10:21               ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-05-28 12:12     ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-05-28 12:37       ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 14:39     ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-28 15:18       ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-28 16:17         ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-31 12:00           ` Feng Tang

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