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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Chris Packham <Chris.Packham@alliedtelesis.co.nz>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@kernel.org>
Cc: "jdelvare@suse.com" <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	"linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: Errant readings on LM81 with T2080 SoC
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 21:02:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e516ef6-340e-a873-68a9-71a10008f32c@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c912424-2cc9-8753-1352-1a5c27722cd2@alliedtelesis.co.nz>

On 3/17/21 8:46 PM, Chris Packham wrote:
> 
> On 12/03/21 10:34 am, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On 3/11/21 1:17 PM, Chris Packham wrote:
>>> On 11/03/21 9:18 pm, Wolfram Sang wrote:
>>>>> Bummer. What is really weird is that you see clock stretching under
>>>>> CPU load. Normally clock stretching is triggered by the device, not
>>>>> by the host.
>>>> One example: Some hosts need an interrupt per byte to know if they
>>>> should send ACK or NACK. If that interrupt is delayed, they stretch the
>>>> clock.
>>>>
>>> It feels like something like that is happening. Looking at the T2080
>>> Reference manual there is an interesting timing diagram (Figure 14-2 if
>>> someone feels like looking it up). It shows SCL low between the ACK for
>>> the address and the data byte. I think if we're delayed in sending the
>>> next byte we could violate Ttimeout or Tlow:mext from the SMBUS spec.
>>>
>> I think that really leaves you only two options that I can see:
>> Rework the driver to handle critical actions (such as setting TXAK,
>> and everything else that might result in clock stretching) in the
>> interrupt handler, or rework the driver to handle everything in
>> a high priority kernel thread.
> I've made some reasonable progress on making i2c-mpc more interrupt 
> driven. Assuming it works out for my use-case is there an opinion on 
> making interrupt support mandatory? Looking at all the in-tree dts files 
> that use one of the compatible strings from i2c-mpc.c they all have 
> interrupt properties so in theory nothing is using the polling mode. But 
> there may be some out-of-tree boards or boards using an old dtb that 
> would be affected?
> 

The polling code is from pre-git times. Like 2005 and earlier.
I'd say it is about time to get rid of it. Any out-of-tree users
had more than 15 years to upstream their code, after all.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-18  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-07 22:52 Errant readings on LM81 with T2080 SoC Chris Packham
2021-03-08  0:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-08  2:27   ` Chris Packham
2021-03-08  4:37     ` Chris Packham
2021-03-08  4:59       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-08 20:27         ` Chris Packham
2021-03-08 22:39           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-10  2:19           ` Chris Packham
2021-03-10  5:06             ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-10 21:48               ` Chris Packham
2021-03-11  7:41                 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-11  8:18                   ` Wolfram Sang
2021-03-11 15:19                     ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-11 21:17                     ` Chris Packham
2021-03-11 21:34                       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-11 23:47                         ` Chris Packham
2021-03-12  0:07                           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-12  0:19                             ` Chris Packham
2021-03-12  9:25                         ` David Laight
2021-03-14 21:26                           ` Chris Packham
2021-03-15  9:46                             ` David Laight
2021-03-18  5:44                             ` Wolfram Sang
2021-03-18  3:46                         ` Chris Packham
2021-03-18  4:02                           ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2021-03-18  5:39                             ` Wolfram Sang
2021-03-08 22:10         ` Chris Packham
2021-03-09  4:36           ` Chris Packham
2021-03-09  5:24             ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-09 23:35   ` Chris Packham
2021-03-10  3:29     ` Guenter Roeck

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