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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Kees Cook' <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 3/5] stack: Optionally randomize kernel stack offset each syscall
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 13:42:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <917458f43d194385a760d75292d4eb47@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202006221748.DA27A7FFC@keescook>

From: Kees Cook
> Sent: 23 June 2020 01:56
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 08:05:10PM -0400, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > But I still don't see anything _stopping_ the compiler from optimizing
> > this better in the future. The "=m" is not a barrier: it just informs
> > the compiler that the asm produces an output value in *ptr (and no other
> > outputs). If nothing can consume that output, it doesn't stop the
> > compiler from freeing the allocation immediately after the asm instead
> > of at the end of the function.
> 
> Ah, yeah, I get what you mean.
> 
> > I'm talking about something like
> > 	asm volatile("" : : "r" (ptr) : "memory");
> > which tells the compiler that the asm may change memory arbitrarily.
> 
> Yeah, I will adjust it.
> 
> > Here, we don't use it really as a barrier, but to tell the compiler that
> > the asm may have stashed the value of ptr somewhere in memory, so it's
> > not free to reuse the space that it pointed to until the function
> > returns (unless it can prove that nothing accesses memory, not just that
> > nothing accesses ptr).

Do you need another asm volatile("" : : "r" (ptr) : "memory");
(or similar) at the bottom of the function - that the compiler thinks
might access the memory whose address it thought got saved earlier?

I wonder if it would be easier to allocate the stack space
in the asm wrapper? At least as an architecture option.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-23 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-22 19:31 [PATCH v4 0/5] " Kees Cook
2020-06-22 19:31 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] jump_label: Provide CONFIG-driven build state defaults Kees Cook
2020-06-22 19:31 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] init_on_alloc: Unpessimize default-on builds Kees Cook
2020-06-22 19:31 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] stack: Optionally randomize kernel stack offset each syscall Kees Cook
2020-06-22 19:40   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-22 21:26     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-22 20:07   ` Jann Horn
2020-06-22 21:30     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-22 21:42       ` Jann Horn
2020-06-22 22:04         ` Kees Cook
2020-06-22 22:56   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-06-22 23:07     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-23  0:05       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-06-23  0:56         ` Kees Cook
2020-06-23 13:42           ` David Laight [this message]
2020-06-23 12:38   ` Alexander Popov
2020-06-22 19:31 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] x86/entry: Enable random_kstack_offset support Kees Cook
2020-06-22 19:31 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] arm64: entry: " Kees Cook
2020-06-23  9:40   ` Mark Rutland

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