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From: "Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)" <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
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Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched/topology: Get rid of NUMA overlapping groups
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 00:12:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9619692afa1d4571b59c8a1da5d1076a@hisilicon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jhjpn1a232z.mognet@arm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valentin Schneider [mailto:valentin.schneider@arm.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:48 AM
> To: Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>;
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: vincent.guittot@linaro.org; mgorman@suse.de; mingo@kernel.org;
> peterz@infradead.org; dietmar.eggemann@arm.com; morten.rasmussen@arm.com;
> linuxarm@openeuler.org; xuwei (O) <xuwei5@huawei.com>; Liguozhu (Kenneth)
> <liguozhu@hisilicon.com>; tiantao (H) <tiantao6@hisilicon.com>; wanghuiqiang
> <wanghuiqiang@huawei.com>; Zengtao (B) <prime.zeng@hisilicon.com>; Jonathan
> Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>; guodong.xu@linaro.org; Meelis Roos
> <mroos@linux.ee>
> Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched/topology: Get rid of NUMA overlapping groups
> 
> Hi Barry,
> 
> On 08/02/21 10:04, Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Valentin Schneider [mailto:valentin.schneider@arm.com]
> 
> >
> > Hi Valentin,
> >
> > While I like your approach, this will require more time
> > to evaluate possible influence as the approach also affects
> > all machines without 3-hops issue. So x86 platforms need to
> > be tested and benchmark is required.
> >
> > What about we firstly finish the review of "grandchild" approach
> > v2 and have a solution for kunpeng920 and Sun Fire X4600-M2
> > while not impacting other machines which haven't 3-hops issues
> > first?
> >
> 
> I figured I'd toss this out while the iron was hot (and I had the topology
> crud paged in), but I ultimately agree that it's better to first go with
> something that fixes the diameter > 2 topologies and leaves the other ones
> untouched, which is exactly what you have.
> 
> > I would appreciate very much if you could comment on v2:
> >
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210203111201.20720-1-song.bao.hua@hisilicon
> .com/
> >
> 
> See my comment below on domain degeneration; with that taken care of I
> would say it's good to go. Have a look at what patch1+patch3 squashed
> together looks like, passing the right sd to init_overlap_sched_group()
> looks a bit neater IMO.
> 
> >> +static struct sched_domain *find_node_domain(struct sched_domain *sd)
> >> +{
> >> +	struct sched_domain *parent;
> >> +
> >> +	BUG_ON(!(sd->flags & SD_NUMA));
> >> +
> >> +	/* Get to the level above NODE */
> >> +	while (sd && sd->child) {
> >> +		parent = sd;
> >> +		sd = sd->child;
> >> +
> >> +		if (!(sd->flags & SD_NUMA))
> >> +			break;
> >> +	}
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * We're going to create cross topology level sched_group_capacity
> >> +	 * references. This can only work if the domains resulting from said
> >> +	 * levels won't be degenerated, as we need said sgc to be periodically
> >> +	 * updated: it needs to be attached to the local group of a domain
> >> +	 * that didn't get degenerated.
> >> +	 *
> >> +	 * Of course, groups aren't available yet, so we can't call the usual
> >> +	 * sd_degenerate(). Checking domain spans is the closest we get.
> >> +	 * Start from NODE's parent, and keep going up until we get a domain
> >> +	 * we're sure won't be degenerated.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	while (sd->parent &&
> >> +	       cpumask_equal(sched_domain_span(sd), sched_domain_span(parent)))
> {
> >> +		sd = parent;
> >> +		parent = sd->parent;
> >> +	}
> >
> > So this is because the sched_domain which doesn't contribute to scheduler
> > will be destroyed during cpu_attach_domain() since sd and parent span
> > the seam mask?
> >
> 
> Yes; let's take your topology for instance:
> 
> node   0   1   2   3
>     0:  10  12  20  22
>     1:  12  10  22  24
>     2:  20  22  10  12
>     3:  22  24  12  10
> 
>       2       10      2
>   0 <---> 1 <---> 2 <---> 3

Guess you actually mean
       2       10      2
   1 <---> 0 <---> 2 <---> 3

> 
> 
> Domains for node1 will look like (before any fixes are applied):
> 
> NUMA<=10: span=1   groups=(1)
> NUMA<=12: span=0-1 groups=(1)->(0)
> NUMA<=20: span=0-1 groups=(0,1)
> NUMA<=22: span=0-2 groups=(0,1)->(0,2-3)
> NUMA<=24: span=0-3 groups=(0-2)->(0,2-3)
> 
> As you can see, the domain representing distance <= 20 will be degenerated
> (it has a single group). If we were to e.g. add some more nodes to the left
> of node0, then we would trigger the "grandchildren logic" for node1 and
> would end up creating a reference to node1 NUMA<=20's sgc, which is a
> mistake: that domain will be degenerated, and that sgc will never be
> updated. The right thing to do here would be reference node1 NUMA<=12's
> sgc, which the above snippet does.

Guess I got your point even though the diagram is not correct :-)

If the topology is as below(add a node left to node1 rather than
node0):

    9       2       10      2
A <---> 1 <---> 0 <---> 2 <---> 3

For nodeA,
NUMA<=10: span=A   groups=(A)
NUMA<=12: span= A groups= (A)
NUMA<=19: span=A-1 groups=(A),(1)
NUMA<=20: span=A-1 groups=(A,1)
*1 NUMA<=21: span=A-1-0 groups=(A,1), node1's numa<=20

For node0,
NUMA<=10: span=9   groups=(0)
#3 NUMA<=12: span=0-1 groups=(0)->(1)
#2 NUMA<=19: span=0-1 groups=(0,1)
#1 NUMA<=20: span=0-1-2 groups=(0,1),....

*1 will firstly try #1, and it finds 2 is outside the A-1-0,
then it will try #2. Finally #2 will be degenerated, so we
should actually use #3. Amazing!

> 
> >> +
> >> +	return parent;
> >> +}
> >> +

Thanks
Barry

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-09  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-03 15:54 [RFC PATCH 0/2] sched/topology: Get rid of overlapping groups Valentin Schneider
2021-02-03 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched/topology: Get rid of NUMA " Valentin Schneider
2021-02-08 10:04   ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-08 11:47     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-02-09  0:12       ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) [this message]
2021-02-09 10:41         ` Valentin Schneider
2021-02-03 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Revert "sched/topology: Warn when NUMA diameter > 2" Valentin Schneider
2021-02-08 10:27   ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-03 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 3/2] sched/topology: Alternative diameter >= 2 fixup Valentin Schneider

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