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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, frederic@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, cai@lca.pw,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 7/7] sched: Replace rq::wake_list
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 06:33:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9784a2ec-b778-2492-76fc-c5aef83b66ad@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200605081028.GC2750@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 6/5/20 1:10 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 07:18:37AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 06:11:04PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>>> +	BUILD_BUG_ON(offsetof(struct task_struct, wake_entry_type) - offsetof(struct task_struct, wake_entry) !=
>>> +		     offsetof(struct __call_single_data, flags) - offsetof(struct __call_single_data, llist));
>>> +
>>
>> There is no guarantee in C that
>>
>> 	type1 a;
>> 	type2 b;
>>
>> in two different data structures means that offsetof(b) - offsetof(a)
>> is the same in both data structures unless attributes such as
>> __attribute__((__packed__)) are used.
> 
> Do tell more; the alignment requirements and size of the types remains
> the same, this resulting in different layout is unlikely.
> 

I have not made the C standard. You point out yourself a possible explicit
culprit: struct randomization. That by itself shows that you can not rely
on two elements of different structures having the same alignment,
which is pretty much exactly what I said (and may explain why observing
the problem seemed to at least somewhat depend on the weather).

> I found this excellent quote on Hacker News this morning:
> 
>  "I think the attitude of compiler writers is a good reason to fix the
>   spec so they can't keep ratfucking developers trying to get work done."
> 

Qed.

Guenter

>> As result, this does and will cause a variety of build errors depending
>> on the compiler version and compile flags.
> 
> The only thing I can think of that's actually a problem is that retarded
> struct randomization stuff.
> 
> Anyway, I'll move cleaning it up a little higher on the todo list.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-05 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26 16:10 [RFC][PATCH 0/7] Fix the scheduler-IPI mess Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-26 16:10 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] sched: Fix smp_call_function_single_async() usage for ILB Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-26 23:56   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-27 10:23   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-05-27 11:28     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-27 12:07       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-05-29 15:26   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-01  9:52   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-01 11:40     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 16:10 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] smp: Optimize flush_smp_call_function_queue() Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 12:28   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-01  9:52   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-26 16:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] smp: Move irq_work_run() out of flush_smp_call_function_queue() Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-29 13:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-01  9:52   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-26 16:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] smp: Optimize send_call_function_single_ipi() Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-27  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-27 10:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-27 15:56       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-27 16:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-27 17:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-27 19:39             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-28  1:35               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-28  8:59             ` [tip: core/rcu] rcu: Allow for smp_call_function() running callbacks from idle tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-21 16:56             ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] smp: Optimize send_call_function_single_ipi() Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-22  0:20               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-22  8:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-22 15:35                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-29 13:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-01  9:52   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-26 16:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] irq_work, smp: Allow irq_work on call_single_queue Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 23:40   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-29 13:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-05  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-05 15:02         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-05 16:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-05 15:24         ` Kees Cook
2020-06-10 13:24         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-01  9:52   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-26 16:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] sched: Add rq::ttwu_pending Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-01  9:52   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-26 16:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] sched: Replace rq::wake_list Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-29 15:10   ` Valdis Klētnieks
2020-06-01  9:52   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-02 15:16     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-04 14:18   ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] " Guenter Roeck
2020-06-05  0:24     ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-05  7:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-05 16:15         ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-06 23:13           ` Guenter Roeck
2020-06-09 20:21             ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-09 21:25               ` Guenter Roeck
2020-06-09 21:38                 ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-09 22:06                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-09 23:03                     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-06-10  9:09                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-18 17:57                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-06-18 19:06                   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-06-09 22:07               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-05  8:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-05 13:33       ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2020-06-05 14:09         ` Peter Zijlstra

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