From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73094C3567B for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 07:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF27920675 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 07:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=waifu.club header.i=@waifu.club header.b="JF3i3jPc" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727268AbgBXHqi (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Feb 2020 02:46:38 -0500 Received: from mx1.cock.li ([185.10.68.5]:51647 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726765AbgBXHqi (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Feb 2020 02:46:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=waifu.club; s=mail; t=1582530393; bh=0c+zMTIfOnlQnZ6wr1MnPNipsOcznaKQj0dmHqk9DcU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=JF3i3jPcliif+EGS3ehz/yJjC0v1JV91ju5LGbHfOWw6wM65IdjD2bgQccGqd437z tOCu5ha9G16Sm7K6ApomZneBTot8duTywh7tO7KhHSDv52rVl+rK4oyVwhl6eQJYUu LdWv59Ec4SBUs7tKYpunu5vs99g2GbWYimZNZcylVP6ukKZCTTo+MCjrdP1d7YgfH7 6nG19DomdQPWmRrSRMbUOKC31sSxz1jymqiIZRmDvD7p08R1/dAMIZVhMCKOuKDsSl XodpPAN6D43jcyG+LrSx48W6hushxXsitCo7PPdnceDWMkfwkkMvdBm7XpNihtc3WD PIxk8RgwiklUw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 07:46:33 +0000 From: whywontyousue@waifu.club To: Stephan von Krawczynski Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org, bruce@perens.com, bind-users@lists.isc.org, blukashev@sempervictus.com, tcallawa@redhat.com, torvalds@osdl.org Subject: Re: General Discussion about GPLness In-Reply-To: <20200223214757.5adf49e4@ithnet.com> References: <8b0e828da35ab77c1ad4603768c6eab6@waifu.club> <20200223133301.03eab91d@ithnet.com> <2241a3e0c8dcba5b69b4f670e181d7cd@waifu.club> <20200223153909.1ba91bae@ithnet.com> <20200223214757.5adf49e4@ithnet.com> Message-ID: <9c062aed49c1484d435e1a394e979c83@waifu.club> X-Sender: whywontyousue@waifu.club User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.10 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Hm, really it is quite hard to stay calm reading your constant insults > on If such is so, it is shown to all that you are a stupid white man, what can I say. You can't separate facts from fiction (opinion) The FACT relevant to this discussion is how the US Courts see this issue: and they see a Copyright violation when your Work modifies another protected Work without the Copyright owners permission. You (the creator of the impinging Work) create a derivative work (yes, running) this way. You must have permission from the Copyright holder of the work you are modifying. You don't like that: I know; you've made it clear. The Opinion that the Linux Kernel Copyright holders are weak scum has nothing to do with that and you should simply glide over those passages: they really shouldn't upset you. What should Upset you is that they refuse to ever sue entities like OpenSourceSecurity (GrSecurity) and Bradly Spengler, to enforce their Copyrights. That has a "lets all violate the license" effect. The GPL _IS_ dead because of the INACTION of the linux scumbags and of the FSF (which has been captured by industry). You killed the dream Linux copyright holder: Yes: Fuck you (unless you sue: then you are the greatest and I wish for you total and complete Victory.) You asked a question "Why can't we violate the linux copyright in this way". Your question was answered. What more do you want? Well I gave you more: lots of opinion. You want more or less? How about YOU write the response you want? Go to another email address, and respond to yourself "Hey, yes, let us violate the linux copyrights, fuck the US courts, it doesn't matter" Go on, I don't want to be the only other "person" in this thread. Oh, and I've been contributing the Free Software for about 20 years, full time, so I haven't done nothing. On 2020-02-23 20:47, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > Hm, really it is quite hard to stay calm reading your constant insults > on > people that have quite sure done a lot more for free software than you > have. > I do understand why you cannot enter a discussion with your real name, > as most > of your input is of zero quality - and below. > Unfortunately you did not even try to understand what the true issue is > all > about. It is one story to modify running code that probably was never > ment to > be patched that way (which would involve re-engineering it). But our > story is > about kernel modules, something everybody is free to write and publish, > with a > defined and open interface for interaction. No kernel code is modified > in that > sense. But you fail to understand that. > Hopefully others here do. I do not expect them to stand up and jump > into a > discussion where you are a part of. But I hope people start to think > about it > and realise - like I did - that this train is on the wrong track. > After all I do believe that constructive interaction of software is > still > better than destructive building of hurdles and walls. > Because in the end people are only suffering from this approach and > nothing is > protected. > -- > Regards, > Stephan >