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From: Chen Wandun <chenwandun@huawei.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 14:31:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e3ca922-1448-2eb1-b056-218236e7c72f@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YlkBrHOFgah3vHaK@google.com>



在 2022/4/15 13:25, Yu Zhao 写道:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:23:18AM +0800, Chen Wandun wrote:
>> 在 2022/4/15 4:53, Yu Zhao 写道:
>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 07:47:54PM +0800, Chen Wandun wrote:
>>>> On 2022/4/7 11:15, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>>>> +static void inc_min_seq(struct lruvec *lruvec)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	int type;
>>>>> +	struct lru_gen_struct *lrugen = &lruvec->lrugen;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	VM_BUG_ON(!seq_is_valid(lruvec));
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	for (type = 0; type < ANON_AND_FILE; type++) {
>>>>> +		if (get_nr_gens(lruvec, type) != MAX_NR_GENS)
>>>>> +			continue;
>>>> I'm confused about relation between aging and LRU list operation.
>>>>
>>>> In function inc_max_seq,  both min_seq and max_seq will increase,
>>>> the lrugen->lists[] indexed by lru_gen_from_seq(max_seq + 1) may
>>>> be non-empty?
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> for example,
>>>> before inc_max_seq:
>>>> min_seq == 0, lrugen->lists[0][type][zone]
>>>> max_seq ==3, lrugen->lists[3][type][zone]
>>>>
>>>> after inc_max_seq:
>>>> min_seq ==1, lrugen->lists[1][type][zone]
>>>> max_seq ==4, lrugen->lists[0][type][zone]
>>>>
>>>> If lrugen->lists[0][type][zone] is not empty before inc_max_seq and it is
>>>> the most inactive list,however lurgen->lists[0][type][zone] will become
>>>> the most active list after inc_max_seq.
>>> Correct.
>>>
>>>> So,  in this place,
>>>>
>>>> if (get_nr_gens(lruvec, type) != MAX_NR_GENS)
>>>> 	continue;
>>>>
>>>> should change to
>>>>
>>>> if (get_nr_gens(lruvec, type) == MAX_NR_GENS)
>>>> 	continue;
>>> No, because max/min_seq will overlap if we do so.
>>>
>>> lrugen->lists[max_seq+1] can only be non-empty for anon LRU, for a
>>> couple of reasons:
>>> 1. We can't swap at all.
>>> 2. Swapping is constrained, e.g., swapfile is full.
>>>
>>> Both cases are similar to a producer (the aging) overrunning a
>>> consumer (the eviction). We used to handle them, but I simplified the
>>> code because I don't feel they are worth handling [1].
>> Can lrugen->lists[max_seq+1]  also be non-empty for file LRU?
> On reclaim path, no. But it can be forced to do so via debugfs.
>
>> such as in dont reclaim mapped file page case(isolation will fail).
> You mean may_unmap=false? Pages stays in the same generation if
> isolation fails. So lrugen->lists[min_seq] won't be empty in this
> case.
>
>> If so, after aging, eviction will reclaim memory start from
>> lrugen->lists[min_seq+1], but some oldest file page still
>> remain in lrugen->lists[max_seq+1].
>>
>> sort_folio can help to put misplaced pages to the right
>> LRU list, but in this case, it does't help, because sort_folio
>> only sort lrugen->lists[min_seq+1].
> On reclaim path, inc_max_seq() is only called when need_aging=true,
> and this guarantees max_seq-min_seq[LRU_GEN_FILE]+1 < MAX_NR_GENS.
yes, I think so, but I did't find the logical in function get_nr_evictable,
or am I missing something

         if (min_seq[LRU_GEN_FILE] + MIN_NR_GENS > max_seq)
                 *need_aging = true;
         else if (min_seq[LRU_GEN_FILE] + MIN_NR_GENS < max_seq)
                 *need_aging = false;
         else if (young * MIN_NR_GENS > total)
                 *need_aging = true;
         else if (old * (MIN_NR_GENS + 2) < total)
                 *need_aging = true;
         else
                 *need_aging = false;

Thanks
> .


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-15  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-07  3:15 [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  6:48   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  6:50   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  7:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-20  0:39       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-20 20:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-26 22:39     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 23:42       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-27  1:18         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  1:34           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-04-14  6:03   ` Barry Song
2022-04-14 20:36     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14 21:39       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14 22:14         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 10:15         ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 20:17           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 10:26       ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 20:18         ` Yu Zhao
     [not found]   ` <71af92d2-0777-c318-67fb-8f7d52c800bb@huawei.com>
2022-04-14 20:53     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  2:23       ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  5:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  6:31           ` Chen Wandun [this message]
2022-04-15  6:44             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  9:27               ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-18  9:58   ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  0:53     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19  4:25       ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  4:36         ` Barry Song
2022-04-19 22:25           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19 22:20         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  4:32   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-04-27  4:38     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  5:31       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-04-27  6:00         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  7:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-15  5:30       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  1:14     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  1:56       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  6:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 19:15           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 20:11             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 21:32               ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 21:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 22:57                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 23:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 23:24                       ` [page-reclaim] " Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:31                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-04-15 23:37                           ` Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:49                       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16 16:32                 ` Justin Forbes
2022-04-19 22:32                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-29 14:10   ` zhong jiang
2022-04-30  8:34     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 20:57     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 22:22       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-27  1:11         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-16  0:03     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  4:20       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26  6:59         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 21:30           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 22:15             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 12:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:51     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-16  2:22     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 11:39   ` Huang Shijie
2022-04-07 12:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:52     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-08  4:48       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26  7:42     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:24 ` [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  8:31   ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-07  9:08     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  9:41     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 12:13       ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-08  2:08         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14  5:06 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-20  0:50   ` Yu Zhao

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