From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 06:03:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 06:03:26 -0400 Received: from tangens.hometree.net ([212.34.181.34]:6351 "EHLO mail.hometree.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 06:03:16 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: forge.intermeta.de!not-for-mail From: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" Newsgroups: hometree.linux.kernel Subject: Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregister table Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Organization: INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH Message-ID: <9fnjh0$d1c$1@forge.intermeta.de> In-Reply-To: <200106051659.LAA20094@em.cig.mot.com> <15134.49211.159673.522020@pizda.ninka.net> Reply-To: hps@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Host: forge.intermeta.de X-Trace: tangens.hometree.net 991908192 4191 212.34.181.4 (7 Jun 2001 10:03:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:03:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Copyright: (C) 1996-2001 Henning Schmiedehausen X-No-Archive: yes X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "David S. Miller" writes: >And my current understanding is that allowing proprietary >reimplementations of the VM, VFS, and core networking, is not one of >the things which is allowed. ...is wanted (by you and possibly Linus). Not ...is allowed. It _is_ already allowed. Someone can use the posted patch which is GPL open source, put it into the kernel and use their proprietary module. And this is legal according to the "Kernel GPL, Linus Torvalds edition (TM)" which says "any loadable module can be binary only". Not "only loadable modules which are drivers". It may not be the intention but it is the fact. The cat is already out of the box. Ok, someone will have to maintain the small glue patch separate from the kernel but you're already screwed. You, as a nay-sayer, just make work a little harder for some of the really useful uses of such an addition and life a little easier for companies that supply such a feature with their OS and say that Linux, oops, DaveM stifles and hinders inovation because of ego. And that a "shared source" model avoids single persons jumping up and down until they're blue in their face to block others. And that their code base will not fork over such a minor issue. And all this is still a part of "freedom". Regards Henning [ I consider your position a good and valid one from a "pure" view and I really like it. But reality is different. And you should _work_ with the people, and help them to keep their stuff in the open source and not insult them. ] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20