From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262311AbUDKLhx (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:37:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262328AbUDKLhx (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:37:53 -0400 Received: from smtp-out3.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.13]:47117 "EHLO smtp-out3.xs4all.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262311AbUDKLht (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:37:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20040410190230.GD1056@selene> References: <1Ijzw-4ff-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <1Ijzv-4ff-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <1IntE-7wn-39@gated-at.bofh.it> <407826DF.9030506@clanhk.org> <20040410184904.GA12924@colin2.muc.de> <20040410190230.GD1056@selene> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-23-297051083" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "J. Ryan Earl" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen From: Paul Wagland Subject: Re: amd64 questions Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:37:46 +0200 To: Hugo Mills X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --Apple-Mail-23-297051083 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Apr 10, 2004, at 21:02, Hugo Mills wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 08:49:04PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: >>> line either? Or we can if we use AMD64 [DM] libraries with a AMD64 >>> kernel? DM = Device Mapper right? >> >> You can't use Device Mapper with 32bit user tools on a 64bit kernel >> right now. > > Well, you can, because that's what I'm doing on this machine. Joe > Thornber posted a patch[1] here a few weeks ago which fixes the > problem in a "sealing-wax-and-string" kind of way. It Works For > Me(tm), which is about all you can say about it -- it's not the > prettiest piece of code, even to my non-kernel eyes. :) Ah, yes, but you missed the bit slightly later in the thread where Andi requested that this not be added to the kernel since it would then break all currently existing 64bit DM user tools. Newly compiled ones would, of course, work, but you introduce a DM user tool versioning problem, where the old 64 bit utils need to be used with old kernels, and the new tools need to be used with the new kernels. As far as I understood, this is the "official" line for the mainstream kernel. It is my hope that the disties all decide to use Thornbers patch when they do release, but only time will tell... Of course, this also means that you can't "dual boot" your linux partition based if you use DM on the fact that you cannot use the same DM tools. For this reason I would like the problem to be fixed in the mainline kernel, but that is primarily a selfish concern ;-) as it makes my own migration harder. Cheers, Paul --Apple-Mail-23-297051083 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFAeS4Ntch0EvEFvxURAm3XAKC8pmbgaYqxIBFMqejm7y7b+Uy4DgCgy2Xa 2TPYlIm3OuMiaKgb/R6emno= =RUJW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-23-297051083--