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From: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linux Edac Mailing List <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] events/hw_event: Create a Hardware Anomaly Report Mechanism (HARM)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:37:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=jGB_nFO0nnWWZ60gqgdELAQjv5dpAZmz5zKSz@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D8D078C.1040201@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
<mchehab@redhat.com> wrote:
> Em 25-03-2011 11:13, Borislav Petkov escreveu:
>> However, there's
>> another issue with fatal errors - you want to execute as less code as
>> possible in the wake of a fatal error.
>
> Yes. That's one of the reasons why it may make sense to have a separate event
> for fatal errors.

We have three categories (severities):
1) Corrected - log these
2) Uncorrected-but-not-immediately-fatal - log these too
3) Fatal - all we can do with these is log to some persistent store (or
    to a serial console connected to a logging device). perf style event
    tracing doesn't help when all the userland daemons will never get a
    chance to run.

> It would be good to use some non-volatile ram for these. I was told that
> APEI spec defines a way for that, but I'm not sure if low end machines would
> be shipped with that.

You are talking about ERST - and you are right, this is generally not going
to be present on low-end machines.  drivers/acpi/apei/erst.c was accepted
in 2.6.35.  My /dev/pstore changes are in the current merge for 2.6.39 (but
currently only show dmesg traces to the user).

> Alternatively, edac could fill a translation table, and the decoding code at
> mce would be just a table retrieve routine (in order to speed-up translation,
> in the case of fatal errors.

Eventually the translation table should move above edac (to the drivers/ras/
area that Borislav suggested earlier?) so that both mce and edac can access.
I think we'll need this for some time as SMBIOS continues to disappoint
me with its inaccuracies.

-Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-25 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1300996141.git.mchehab@redhat.com>
2011-03-24 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] events/hw_event: Create a Hardware Anomaly Report Mechanism (HARM) Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-03-24 22:39   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-25 10:20     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-03-25 14:13       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-25 21:22         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-03-25 22:37           ` Tony Luck [this message]
2011-03-26 11:56             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-03-28 17:03           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-28 19:44             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-03-30 17:27               ` Luck, Tony
2011-03-30 17:51                 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-30 18:30                   ` Francis St. Amant
2011-03-30 19:50                     ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-30 20:00                       ` Francis St. Amant
2011-03-31  7:43                         ` Borislav Petkov
2012-01-26 23:05     ` [PATCH 1/3] events/hw_event: Create a Hardware Events Report Mecanism (HERM) Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-26 23:05       ` [PATCH 2/3] events/hw_event: use __string() trace macros for events Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-26 23:05       ` [PATCH 3/3] hw_event: Consolidate uncorrected/corrected error msgs into one Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-03-24 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] edac: Move edac main structs to include/linux/edac.h Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-03-24 20:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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