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From: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty task groups
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:33:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTik7cR_5JJWfk8SEf3Dngfe7yZvuivJ66dVDOuAk@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289931715.2109.648.camel@laptop>

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
>
> Not quite the same, you're nesting one level deeper. But the reality is,
> not a lot of people will change their userspace.

That's a weak argument - not a lot of people will (explicitly) change
their kernel either - they'll get a fresh kernel via their distro
updates, as they would get userspace updates. So it's only a few
people (distros) that actually need to make such a change.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-16 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 264+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-19  9:16 [RFC/RFT PATCH] sched: automated per tty task groups Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19  9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19  9:39   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19  9:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19  9:46       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21  7:55       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21 10:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19  9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19  9:42   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 11:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 11:56   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-19 13:12     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 15:28   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-19 18:13     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 18:53       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-20  2:56         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-21  8:11           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21  8:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-21  8:39               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21  8:48             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-10-21  8:52               ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                 ` <20101021115723.GA1587@arch.trippelsdorf.de>
2010-10-21 16:22                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-21 10:51             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-21 11:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-21 16:29                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-21 19:11                   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-26  7:07                   ` [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] " Mike Galbraith
2010-10-26  7:29                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-26 15:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-27  1:58                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 15:26                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 18:04                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-11 18:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-11 19:08                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 19:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-11 20:29                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-11 19:15                           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-11 19:35                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 19:38                               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-11 19:58                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 20:27                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-11 22:20                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-12 18:12                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-13 11:42                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-14 17:19                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-14 17:49                                     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-14 18:10                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-14 19:28                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-14 20:20                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-14 20:27                                             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-14 20:48                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-14 23:43                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15  0:15                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-15  0:26                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-15  1:13                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15  3:12                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-15 14:00                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15  8:57                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 11:32                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 11:46                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 12:57                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-15 21:25                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 22:48                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16  1:56                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16  2:18                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-17  8:06                                                                       ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-16 14:02                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 14:11                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 14:47                                                                         ` Dhaval Giani
2010-11-16 17:03                                                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 17:11                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 18:16                                                                               ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 18:21                                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 18:33                                                                                   ` Paul Menage [this message]
2010-11-16 18:55                                                                                     ` david
2010-11-16 18:59                                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:09                                                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:13                                                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:22                                                                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:25                                                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:40                                                                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:43                                                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:49                                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 19:35                                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 20:03                                                                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:12                                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 18:49                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 19:03                                                                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-16 20:21                                                                                     ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-16 20:35                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 20:31                                                                                     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 13:21                                                                                       ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-16 19:08                                                                                   ` david
2010-11-16 20:33                                                                                     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:38                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 21:14                                                                                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 13:23                                                                                           ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-18 22:33                                                                                           ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2010-11-18 23:12                                                                                             ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-18 23:35                                                                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-18 23:43                                                                                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-18 23:51                                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19  0:02                                                                                                     ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19  0:07                                                                                                       ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 11:57                                                                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 14:24                                                                                                           ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 14:43                                                                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 14:55                                                                                                               ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19  0:42                                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19  0:59                                                                                                         ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19  1:11                                                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19  1:12                                                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19  1:23                                                                                                             ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19  2:28                                                                                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19  9:02                                                                                                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 11:49                                                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 12:19                                                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 12:55                                                                                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-19 13:00                                                                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:20                                                                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-19 12:31                                                                                                     ` Paul Menage
2010-11-19 12:51                                                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:03                                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19 12:38                                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-22  6:22                                                                                                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-18 23:29                                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 20:44                                                                                       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-16 19:27                                                                                   ` Dhaval Giani
2010-11-16 19:42                                                                                     ` Diego Calleja
2010-11-16 19:45                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 19:56                                                                                       ` Paul Menage
2010-11-16 20:17                                                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 20:50                                                                                       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-20 22:16                                                                                         ` Mika Laitio
2010-11-21  0:19                                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 20:28                                                                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:46                                                                                     ` David Miller
2010-11-16 21:08                                                                                       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 21:14                                                                                         ` David Miller
2010-11-16 20:52                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 21:08                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 21:19                                                                                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 23:39                                                                                           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17  0:21                                                                                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17  2:06                                                                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 14:57                                                                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-17 15:01                                                                                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 17:16                                                                                                     ` John Stoffel
2010-11-19  5:20                                                                                                 ` Andev
2010-11-19 11:59                                                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:03                                                                                                     ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-19 13:07                                                                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-19 16:29                                                                                                         ` David Miller
2010-11-19 16:34                                                                                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-19 16:43                                                                                                             ` David Miller
2010-11-19 17:51                                                                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19 19:12                                                                                                                 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-19 19:48                                                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-20  1:33                                                                                                                     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-19 20:38                                                                                                                   ` Paul Menage
2010-11-20  1:13                                                                                                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-20  4:25                                                                                                                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-20 15:41                                                                                                                       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-22  6:24                                                                                                                         ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-22 19:21                                                                                                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-19 19:31                                                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19 13:21                                                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 22:34                                                                                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 22:37                                                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 22:45                                                                                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 22:52                                                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 15:00                                                                                                 ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-17 23:49                                                                                               ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 21:17                                                                                       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 20:59                                                                                     ` James Cloos
2010-11-22  6:16                                                                                   ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-16 18:57                                                                                 ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-16 19:12                                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:57                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 20:36                                                                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 19:42                                                                                 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-16 18:08                                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 18:56                                                                               ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-16 20:05                                                                               ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:15                                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19  0:35                                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-19  0:42                                                                                   ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19  3:15                                                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20101120090955.GB12043@balbir.in.ibm.com>
2010-11-20 19:47                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 13:04                                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-16 14:18                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 15:03                                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-16 15:41                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 17:28                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 17:42                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-20 19:35                                                                             ` [PATCH v4] sched: automated per session " Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 15:39                                                                               ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add 'autogroup' scheduling feature: " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2010-12-15 17:50                                                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-16  7:53                                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-16 14:09                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-16 15:07                                                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-04 14:18                                                                                       ` [tip:sched/core] sched, autogroup: Fix potential access to freed memory tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20 13:08                                                                                 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add 'autogroup' scheduling feature: automated per session task groups Bharata B Rao
2010-12-20 13:19                                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 15:46                                                                                     ` Bharata B Rao
2010-12-20 15:53                                                                                       ` Bharata B Rao
2010-12-21  8:33                                                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:39                                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-21  5:04                                                                                         ` Bharata B Rao
2010-12-21  5:50                                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-04 17:39                                                                               ` [PATCH v4] sched: " Colin Walters
2010-12-04 18:33                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-04 20:01                                                                                   ` Colin Walters
2010-12-04 22:39                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-04 23:43                                                                                       ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05  0:31                                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-05  7:47                                                                                         ` Ray Lee
2010-12-05 19:22                                                                                           ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 20:47                                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-05 22:47                                                                                               ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 22:58                                                                                                 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-12-05 23:05                                                                                                   ` Jesper Juhl
2010-12-07 18:51                                                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-05 10:18                                                                                         ` Con Kolivas
2010-12-05 11:36                                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-05 20:58                                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-12-04 23:31                                                                                     ` david
2010-12-05 11:11                                                                                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-12-05 15:12                                                                                       ` [PATCH v4] Regression: " Alan Cox
2010-12-05 16:16                                                                                         ` Florian Mickler
2010-12-05 19:48                                                                                           ` Alan Cox
2010-12-06 16:03                                                                                             ` Florian Mickler
2010-12-05 16:59                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-05 17:09                                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-05 17:15                                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-06  0:28                                                                                     ` [PATCH v4] " Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-16 14:01                                                                   ` [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty " Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 14:19                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-17  1:31                                                                   ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-17  1:50                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-17  1:56                                                                       ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-17  2:14                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15  0:02                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 22:41                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-15 23:25                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-20 19:33                               ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-20 19:51                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-20 20:37                                   ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-20 22:02                                   ` Konstantin Svist
2010-11-20 22:15                                     ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-20 22:18                                     ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2010-11-20 20:25                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-15 23:46                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 23:50                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16  0:04                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16  1:18                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16  1:55                                     ` Paul Menage
2010-11-16 12:58                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 18:25                                         ` Paul Menage
2010-11-16 13:59                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 14:26                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21 11:27               ` [RFC/RFT PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
2010-10-20 13:55 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-10-20 14:41   ` Mike Galbraith

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