From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756818Ab1CaUfu (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:35:50 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:58862 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755317Ab1CaUfs (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:35:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110331080634.GA18022@elte.hu> <20110331083044.GB14323@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <20110331164539.GB19452@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:28:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] omap changes for v2.6.39 merge window To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux , david@lang.hm, Ingo Molnar , Arnd Bergmann , Tony Lindgren , David Brown , lkml , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Catalin Marinas , "H. Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Umm. The whole "number of lines of code" thing has become a total red herring. > > THAT IS NOT WHY I STARTED TO COMPLAIN! > > The reason I point out the number of lines of code is because it's one > of the more obvious _symptoms_ of the problem. > > But trust me, if you start doing a better job at platform code, I > won't be complaining when I get lots of deleted code, or when I start > getting devicetree descriptions instead of new drivers. So if you don't like lines of code, how about just "number of files touched". This is Thomas this merge window. Remember: he's traditionally doing timers and interrupts and stuff. Do: git log --author=tglx v2.6.38.. --oneline --numstat | cut -f3- | grep -v ' ' | cut -d/ -f1-2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tail and see another example of arm standing out (ok, so "kernel/irq" also stands out in this case, but you'd kind of _expect_ that, when the whole series is about irq controllers, wouldn't you?) And no, mips doesn't look so hot either. Anyway, the point is, there are many ways to show the whole "arm is a maintenance problem" issue. Don't get too hung up about number of lines changed. It's just the simplest kind of thing where the tools give answers very quickly without the above kinds of games. Btw, the reason why the subject line on this rant is what it is, is that during this merge window, arm was also one of the more annoying to merge. And NO, that does NOT mean that I want you guys to merge things behind my back just to hide the problem. I'm just saying that it's another facet of this whole issue. Not that I can't do merges, but that ARM simply ends up having these issues that others don't. Linus