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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
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Subject: RE: [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc()
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 08:06:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5276AD88A1D1A1AA313E228C8C729@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf0sy7xd.ffs@tglx>

> From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 8:13 PM
> 
> >>   5) It's not possible for the kernel to reliably detect whether it is
> >>      running on bare metal or not. Yes we talked about heuristics, but
> >>      that's something I really want to avoid.
> >
> > How would the hypercall mechanism avoid such heuristics?
> 
> The availability of IR remapping where the irqdomain which is provided
> by the remapping unit signals that it supports this new scheme:
> 
>                     |--IO/APIC
>                     |--MSI
>      vector -- IR --|--MSI-X
>                     |--IMS
> 
> while the current scheme is:
> 
>                     |--IO/APIC
>      vector -- IR --|--PCI/MSI[-X]
> 
> or
> 
>                     |--IO/APIC
>      vector --------|--PCI/MSI[-X]
> 
> So in the new scheme the IR domain will advertise new features which are
> not available on older kernels. The availability of these new features
> is the indicator for the interrupt subsystem and subsequently for PCI
> whether IMS is supported or not.
> 
> Bootup either finds an IR unit or not. In the bare metal case that's the
> usual hardware/firmware detection. In the guest case it's the
> availability of vIR including the required hypercall protocol.

Given we have vIR already, there are three scenarios:

1) Bare metal: IR (no hypercall, for sure)
2) VM: vIR (no hypercall, today)
3) VM: vIR (hypercall, tomorrow)

IMS should be allowed only for 1) and 3).

But how to differentiate 2) from 1) if no guest heuristics?

btw I checked Qemu history to find vIR was introduced in 2016:

commit 1121e0afdcfa0cd40e36bd3acff56a3fac4f70fd
Author: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu Jul 14 13:56:13 2016 +0800

    x86-iommu: introduce "intremap" property

    Adding one property for intel-iommu devices to specify whether we should
    support interrupt remapping. By default, IR is disabled. To enable it,
    we should use (take Intel IOMMU as example):

      -device intel_iommu,intremap=on

    This property can be shared by Intel and future AMD IOMMUs.

    Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
    Reviewed-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
    Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

> 
> > Then Qemu needs to find out the GSI number for the vIRTE handle.
> > Again Qemu doesn't have such information since it doesn't know
> > which MSI[-X] entry points to this handle due to no trap.
> >
> > This implies that we may also need carry device ID, #msi entry, etc.
> > in the hypercall, so Qemu can associate the virtual routing info
> > to the right [irqfd, gsi].
> >
> > In your model the hypercall is raised by IR domain. Do you see
> > any problem of finding those information within IR domain?
> 
> IR has the following information available:
> 
>    Interrupt type
>     - MSI:   Device, index and number of vectors
>     - MSI-X: Device, index
>     - IMS:   Device, index
> 
>   Target APIC/vector pair
> 
> IMS: The index depends on the storage type:
> 
>      For storage in device memory, e.g. IDXD, it's the array index.
> 
>      For storage in system memory, the index is a software artifact.
> 
> Does that answer your question?
> 

Yes.

Thanks
Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-11  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-27  1:22 [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 01/32] genirq/msi: Move descriptor list to struct msi_device_data Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 02/32] genirq/msi: Add mutex for MSI list protection Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 03/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_alloc/free_irqs_descs_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 04/32] genirq/msi: Provide a set of advanced MSI accessors and iterators Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28  1:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-28 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 14:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 14:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 05/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_alloc_msi_desc() and a simple allocator Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 06/32] genirq/msi: Provide domain flags to allocate/free MSI descriptors automatically Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 07/32] genirq/msi: Count the allocated MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 19:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:23           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 08/32] PCI/MSI: Protect MSI operations Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 09/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_add_msi_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 10/32] PCI/MSI: Let core code free MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 11/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 12/32] x86/pci/xen: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 13/32] xen/pcifront: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 14/32] s390/pci: Rework MSI descriptor walk Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 10:31   ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-11-29 13:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 15/32] powerpc/4xx/hsta: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 16/32] powerpc/cell/axon_msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 17/32] powerpc/pasemi/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_dec() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 18/32] powerpc/fsl_msi: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 19/32] powerpc/mpic_u3msi: Use msi_for_each-desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:22 ` [patch 20/32] PCI: hv: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 18:21   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 20:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 22:50         ` Dave Jiang
2021-11-29 23:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 23:52           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:29         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 19:21           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 19:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 20:14               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 20:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 21:23                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01  0:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 10:16                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 13:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 17:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:46                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:21                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02  0:01                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 13:55                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 14:23                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 14:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 19:25                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 20:00                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 22:31                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03  0:37                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-03 15:07                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 16:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-04 14:20                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-05 14:16                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:43                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:47                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 17:00                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 20:28                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 21:06                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 22:21                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:19                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:06                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  6:26                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  9:03                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:17                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 15:57                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:37                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:41                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:47                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-12-01 16:28                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 18:41                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                           ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 20:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:21                               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 21:44                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:49                                   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 22:03                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 22:53                                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 23:57                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  5:23                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  8:37                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:31                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 16:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 20:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 20:58                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 22:09                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  0:26                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:29                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:13                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  8:06                                                     ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2021-12-10 12:39                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 19:00                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  7:44                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:04                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  1:56                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:55                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:37                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-13  7:50                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-15  9:24                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-20 14:09                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  7:57                                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 12:48                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22  5:11                                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-22 12:13                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 22:42                                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-23 13:26                                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-11  7:52                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12  0:12                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  2:14                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:50                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:42                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10  7:36                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:30                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-12  6:44                                               ` Mika Penttilä
2021-12-12 23:27                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 14:52                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 15:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:26                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-05 18:25   ` [tip: irq/core] PCI/MSI: Provide post-enable dynamic allocation interfaces for MSI-X tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-05 21:41   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 22/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Rework MSI descriptor allocation Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 23/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Remove ti_sci_inta_msi_domain_free_irqs() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 24/32] bus: fsl-mc-msi: Simplify MSI descriptor handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 25/32] platform-msi: Let core code handle MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 26/32] platform-msi: Simplify platform device MSI code Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 27/32] genirq/msi: Make interrupt allocation less convoluted Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 28/32] genirq/msi: Convert to new functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 29/32] genirq/msi: Mop up old interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 30/32] genirq/msi: Add abuse prevention comment to msi header Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:33         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 32/32] genirq/msi: Convert storage to xarray Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner

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