From: "Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
"Cooper, Andrew" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: RE: [patch 13/31] x86/fpu: Move KVMs FPU swapping to FPU core
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:01:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BYAPR11MB3256EAFF1478F4C5D2372047A9B99@BYAPR11MB3256.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dee5zpf.ffs@tglx>
Hi Thomas,
On 10/15/2021 6:50 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Jing,
>
> On Fri, Oct 15 2021 at 09:00, Jing2 Liu wrote:
> > On 10/14/2021 11:01 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > For the guest dynamic state support, based on the latest discussion,
> > four copies of XFD need be cared and switched, I'd like to list as
> > follows.
>
> There will not be 4 copies. Read my last mail and think about the
> consequences.
>
Actually I saw there are fpu_init_fpstate_user(vcpu->arch.user_fpu)
and fpu_init_fpstate_user(vcpu->arch.guest_fpu) in the full series,
so I understood that we'd keep it this way. (Your last mail corrects me)
But yes, these xstate copies really make things complex and bad,
and I'm glad to do for a good clean way. I'll reply the thinking
(based on your approach below) on that thread later.
> I'm really tired of this tinkering frenzy. There is only one correct approach to
> this:
>
> 1) Define the requirements
>
> 2) Define the best trapping mechanism
>
> 3) Sit down, look at the existing code including the FPU rework for
> AMX. Come up with a proper integration plan
>
> 4) Clean up the existing KVM FPU mess further so the integration
> can be done smoothly
>
> 5) Add the required infrastructure in FPU core and KVM
>
> 6) Add the trapping mechanics
>
> 7) Enable feature
>
> What you are doing is looking for the quickest way to duct tape this into the
> existing mess.
>
> That might be matching the KVM expectations, but it's not going to happen.
>
> KVM already violates all well known rules of encapsulation and just fiddles in
> the guts of FPU mechanism, duplicates code in buggy ways.
>
> This has to stop now!
>
Yes, this is an opportunity to make current KVM FPU better.
> You are free to ignore me,
Of course I won't, because I also want to try a good way that both KVM
and kernel are glad to use.
Thanks,
Jing
but all you are going to achieve is to delay AMX
> integration further. Seriously, I'm not even going to reply to anything which is
> not based on the above approach.
>
> I'm sure you can figure out at which point we are at the moment.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-15 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-11 23:59 [patch 00/31] x86/fpu: Preparatory cleanups for AMX support (part 1) Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-11 23:59 ` [patch 01/31] x86/fpu: Remove pointless argument from switch_fpu_finish() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 02/31] x86/fpu: Update stale comments Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 03/31] x86/pkru: Remove useless include Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 04/31] x86/fpu: Restrict xsaves()/xrstors() to independent states Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 14:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 05/31] x86/fpu: Cleanup the on_boot_cpu clutter Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 06/31] x86/fpu: Remove pointless memset in fpu_clone() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 07/31] x86/process: Clone FPU in copy_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 08/31] x86/fpu: Do not inherit FPU context for kernel and IO worker threads Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 09/31] x86/fpu: Do not inherit FPU context for CLONE_THREAD Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 18:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 19:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 10/31] x86/fpu: Cleanup xstate xcomp_bv initialization Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 11/31] x86/fpu/xstate: Provide and use for_each_xfeature() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 12/31] x86/fpu/xstate: Mark all init only functions __init Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 13/31] x86/fpu: Move KVMs FPU swapping to FPU core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 18:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 18:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 6:15 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13 6:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 7:46 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13 8:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 10:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-13 12:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 14:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 14:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 14:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-13 15:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 10:25 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13 12:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 14:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 6:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 8:02 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 9:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 11:21 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 11:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 11:30 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 11:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-22 8:50 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 14:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 14:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 15:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 19:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 9:20 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 9:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 14:24 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 15:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-16 14:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 9:00 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 10:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 11:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-15 13:01 ` Liu, Jing2 [this message]
2021-10-14 12:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 12:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 14:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 15:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 8:21 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 13:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 14/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn FPU copy from user Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-13 14:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-10-13 15:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 15:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 15/31] x86/fpu: Rework copy_xstate_to_uabi_buf() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn FPU copy to user Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 17:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 18:40 ` [patch V2 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs home brewed " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 5:34 ` [patch 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn " Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 17/31] x86/fpu: Mark fpu__init_prepare_fx_sw_frame() as __init Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 18/31] x86/fpu: Move context switch and exit to user inlines into sched.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 19/31] x86/fpu: Clean up cpu feature tests Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 20/31] x86/fpu: Make os_xrstor_booting() private Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 21/31] x86/fpu: Move os_xsave() and os_xrstor() to core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 22/31] x86/fpu: Move legacy ASM wrappers " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 23/31] x86/fpu: Make WARN_ON_FPU() private Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 24/31] x86/fpu: Move fpregs_restore_userregs() to core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 25/31] x86/fpu: Move mxcsr related code " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 26/31] x86/fpu: Move fpstate functions to api.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 27/31] x86/fpu: Remove internal.h dependency from fpu/signal.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 28/31] x86/sev: Include fpu/xcr.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 7:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 29/31] x86/fpu: Mop up the internal.h leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 30/31] x86/fpu: Replace the includes of fpu/internal.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 31/31] x86/fpu: Provide a proper function for ex_handler_fprestore() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 21:15 ` [patch 00/31] x86/fpu: Preparatory cleanups for AMX support (part 1) Thomas Gleixner
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