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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 26/31] sched, numa, mm: Add fault driven placement and migration policy
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:47:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFw6b7_Wu7q5dACfpxDHQ_ejyK6aesAjNKrtG=o6C0+EyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121026141430.GA12158@gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't the pte_lock serialize all that still? All sites
>> that modify PTE contents should hold the pte_lock (and do
>> afaict).
>
> Hm, indeed.
>
> Is there no code under down_read() (in the page fault path) that
> modifies the pte via just pure atomics?

Well, the ptep_set_access_flags() thing modifies the pte under
down_read(). Not using atomics, though. If it races with itself or
with a hardware page walk, that's fine, but if it races with something
changing other bits than A/D, that would be horribly horribly bad - it
could undo any other bit changes exactly because it's a unlocked
read-do-other-things-write sequence.

But it's always run under the page table lock - as should all other SW
page table modifications - so it *should* be fine. The down_read() is
for protecting other VM data structures (notably the vma lists etc),
not the page table bit-twiddling.

In fact, the whole SW page table modification scheme *depends* on the
page table lock, because the ptep_modify_prot_start/commit thing does
a "atomically clear the page table pointer to protect against hardware
walkers". And if another software walker were to see that cleared
state, it would do bad things (the exception, as usual, is the GUP
code, which does the optimistic unlocked accesses and conceptually
emulates a hardware page table walk)

So I really think that the mmap_sem should be entirely a non-issue for
this kind of code.

            Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-26 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-25 12:16 [PATCH 00/31] numa/core patches Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 01/31] sched, numa, mm: Make find_busiest_queue() a method Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 02/31] sched, numa, mm: Describe the NUMA scheduling problem formally Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01  9:56   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-01 13:13     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 03/31] mm/thp: Preserve pgprot across huge page split Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 10:22   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 04/31] x86/mm: Introduce pte_accessible() Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:10   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  6:24     ` [PATCH 04/31, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2012-11-01 10:42   ` [PATCH 04/31] " Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 05/31] x86/mm: Reduce tlb flushes from ptep_set_access_flags() Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  2:30     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26  2:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  3:57         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26  4:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  6:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 12:34             ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-10-26 12:48               ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-26 13:16                 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 13:26                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 13:28                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 18:44                     ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/mm: only do a local TLB flush in ptep_set_access_flags() Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:49                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 19:16                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 19:18                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 19:21                             ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-29 15:23                             ` Rik van Riel
2012-12-21  9:57                               ` trailing flush_tlb_fix_spurious_fault in handle_pte_fault (was Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86/mm: only do a local TLB flush in ptep_set_access_flags()) Vineet Gupta
2012-10-26 18:45                     ` [PATCH 2/3] x86,mm: drop TLB flush from ptep_set_access_flags Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 21:12                       ` Alan Cox
2012-10-27  3:49                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-27 10:29                           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-27 13:40                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-29 16:57                           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-10-29 17:06                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-17 14:50                               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-17 14:56                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-17 15:17                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-17 15:24                                   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-17 21:53                                     ` Shentino
2012-11-18 15:29                                       ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-10-26 18:46                     ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,generic: only flush the local TLB in ptep_set_access_flags Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:48                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 18:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 18:57                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 19:16                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 19:33                             ` [PATCH -v2 " Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 13:23                 ` [PATCH 05/31] x86/mm: Reduce tlb flushes from ptep_set_access_flags() Michel Lespinasse
2012-10-26 17:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 17:54                 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 18:14                     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 06/31] mm: Only flush the TLB when clearing an accessible pte Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 07/31] sched, numa, mm, s390/thp: Implement pmd_pgprot() for s390 Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 10:49   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 08/31] sched, numa, mm, MIPS/thp: Add pmd_pgprot() implementation Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 09/31] mm/pgprot: Move the pgprot_modify() fallback definition to mm.h Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 10/31] mm/mpol: Remove NUMA_INTERLEAVE_HIT Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:58   ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-26  7:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 11/31] mm/mpol: Make MPOL_LOCAL a real policy Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 10:58   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 12/31] mm/mpol: Add MPOL_MF_NOOP Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 11:10   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 13/31] mm/mpol: Check for misplaced page Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 14/31] mm/mpol: Create special PROT_NONE infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 11:51   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 15/31] mm/mpol: Add MPOL_MF_LAZY Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 12:01   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 16/31] numa, mm: Support NUMA hinting page faults from gup/gup_fast Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 17/31] mm/migrate: Introduce migrate_misplaced_page() Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 12:20   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 18/31] mm/mpol: Use special PROT_NONE to migrate pages Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 19/31] sched, numa, mm: Introduce tsk_home_node() Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 13:48   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 20/31] sched, numa, mm/mpol: Make mempolicy home-node aware Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 13:58   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-01 14:10     ` Don Morris
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 21/31] sched, numa, mm: Introduce sched_feat_numa() Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 14:00   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 22/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement THP migration Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 14:16   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 23/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement home-node awareness Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:06   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 24/31] sched, numa, mm: Introduce last_nid in the pageframe Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:17   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 25/31] sched, numa, mm/mpol: Add_MPOL_F_HOME Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 26/31] sched, numa, mm: Add fault driven placement and migration policy Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  7:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 13:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 14:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26 14:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 16:47             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2012-10-30 19:23   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-01 15:40   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 27/31] sched, numa, mm: Add credits for NUMA placement Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 28/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement constant, per task Working Set Sampling (WSS) rate Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:48   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 29/31] sched, numa, mm: Add NUMA_MIGRATION feature flag Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 30/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement slow start for working set sampling Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:52   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 31/31] sched, numa, mm: Add memcg support to do_huge_pmd_numa_page() Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26  9:07 ` [PATCH 00/31] numa/core patches Zhouping Liu
2012-10-26  9:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26  9:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26  9:41       ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-26 10:20       ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-26 10:24         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-28 17:56     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-29  2:44       ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-29  6:50         ` [PATCH] sched, numa, mm: Add memcg support to do_huge_pmd_numa_page() Ingo Molnar
2012-10-29  8:24           ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-29  8:36             ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-29 11:15             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-30  6:29       ` [PATCH 00/31] numa/core patches Zhouping Liu
2012-10-31  0:48         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-31  7:26           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-10-31 13:15             ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-31 17:31               ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-01 13:41                 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-02  3:23                   ` Zhouping Liu
2012-11-02 23:06                     ` Hugh Dickins
2012-10-30 12:20 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-30 15:28   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-30 16:59     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-03 11:04   ` Alex Shi
2012-11-03 12:21     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-10  2:47       ` Alex Shi
2012-11-12  9:50         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09  8:51   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-05 17:11 ` Srikar Dronamraju

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