From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
Linux Kernel Developers List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
w@1wt.eu, ewust@umich.edu, zakir@umich.edu, greg@kroah.com,
nadiah@cs.ucsd.edu, jhalderm@umich.edu, tglx@linutronix.de,
davem@davemloft.net, stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] random: make 'add_interrupt_randomness()' do something sane
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 09:24:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFw90o8btDJhztkS=2NXiZvXNAkCsZkx-p9+RRx-cMQc6A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120706130127.GB10798@thunk.org>
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> What in the world is "fast count"? I've grepped for it,
> and I can't find it.
It's your own fast-pool counter that Matt was talking about.
> I can simply not credit entropy of the timer is on the irq, but I
> think you and Matt were suggesting more subtle. I just have no idea
> how to tell if there were non-timer interrupts during the last HZ
> cycle. Can you give me a hint?
So instead of not calling the add_interrupt_randomness() at all if the
__IRQF_TIMER bit was set, just pass it in as an argument. That way you
can still use the cycle counter for mixing stuff, but the random.c
code could at least (perhaps in the future) decide that if all it has
seen is timer interrupts, and get_cycles() always returns zero (no
cycle counter), we won't count it as entropy.
At least with no-HZ there's still going to be *some* data there
because you won't get called for every tick, so things like random app
timers etc will affect even the timer interrupt distribution, but...
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-06 16:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-05 18:12 [PATCH 00/10] /dev/random fixups Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] random: make 'add_interrupt_randomness()' do something sane Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:47 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-05 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-05 21:39 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-05 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-05 22:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-05 22:31 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-05 22:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-05 23:21 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-06 2:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-06 13:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-06 16:24 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2012-07-06 16:52 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-09 19:15 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-25 18:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <CAGsuqq2MWuFnY7PMb_2ddBNNJr80xB_JW+Wryq3mhhmQuEojpg@mail.gmail.com>
2012-07-06 21:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 02/10] random: use lockless techniques when mixing entropy pools Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-05 18:19 ` Greg KH
2012-07-05 23:09 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 19:10 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-05 19:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 20:45 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 03/10] random: create add_device_randomness() interface Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 04/10] usb: feed USB device information to the /dev/random driver Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 05/10] net: feed /dev/random with the MAC address when registering a device Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 06/10] random: use the arch-specific rng in xfer_secondary_pool Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 07/10] random: add new get_random_bytes_arch() function Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-05 19:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 21:45 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-25 3:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-25 7:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-25 15:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-25 15:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-25 17:37 ` [PATCH] random: mix in architectural randomness in extract_buf() H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-25 23:50 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-26 0:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-28 2:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-28 2:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-26 3:16 ` [PATCH 07/10] random: add new get_random_bytes_arch() function H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-26 3:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 08/10] random: unify mix_pool_bytes() and mix_pool_bytes_entropy() Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 09/10] random: add tracepoints for easier debugging and verification Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-05 18:12 ` [PATCH 10/10] MAINTAINERS: Theodore Ts'o is taking over the random driver Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-06 11:40 ` [PATCH 00/10] /dev/random fixups Fengguang Wu
2012-07-06 12:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-20 20:15 ` [PATCH] dmi: Feed DMI table to /dev/random driver Tony Luck
2012-07-20 21:03 ` Matt Mackall
2012-07-21 0:56 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-21 1:19 ` Tony Luck
2012-07-21 2:02 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-07-23 16:47 ` [PATCH] random: Add comment to random_initialize() Tony Luck
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