From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933238Ab2AGBzh (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:55:37 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com ([74.125.82.174]:57541 "EHLO mail-we0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759358Ab2AGBzf (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:55:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120106.175028.1076280359661712542.davem@davemloft.net> References: <20120105.192833.760673635385506638.davem@davemloft.net> <20120106.175028.1076280359661712542.davem@davemloft.net> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:55:13 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mbPKX5y4ld9nYvGfqqSLJpY6-S8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT] Networking To: David Miller Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:50 PM, David Miller wrote: > > It replaces the crappy and hard to scale procfs socket listing junk, > which doesn't even provide a way to filter requests. No it doesn't. Look, I have a *recent* distro (up-to-date F16) and the tool that is mentioned (ss) doesn't actually use the new feature even when compiled in. So it doesn't "replace" anything, and buys normal people nothing at all. Some day, maybe. Today? No. It's pure baggage. It shouldn't be "default y". Linus