From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] module, async: async_synchronize_full() on module init iff async is used
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:37:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxCudzOv8e2XjHiT=Qhy9q+mrxUfSYAT=eU6Gq8uyNORw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130116032502.GN2668@htj.dyndns.org>
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello, Linus.
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 07:00:31PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> That said, maybe we could just make the rule be that you can't pick a
>> default IO scheduler that is modular.
>
> This is definitely much more preferable but it would affect use case
> where everything is built modular and the elevator is selected via
> kernel param. This is way outside the usual usage and we can warn
> about the new behavior but it still is an observable behavior change.
> Do you think this would be okay?
I do want the same user-visible semantics, so it's not some one-liner.
The compiled-in elevator would be easy enough to handle in the Kconfig
file (maybe we do already, I didn't even bother to check). The real
problem is the "chosen_elevator" one, which is dynamic with the kernel
command line. And we could handle that one by just trying to load the
module early (but exactly _when_?) and then instead of looking things
up by name, just keep a pointer to the default elevator around.
But no, it's not just some trivial one-liner. Especially the question
about "when to try to load the module that is given on the kernel
command line" is not trivial. Do we require that the module is in the
initrd and loadable basically immediate at boot? Do we try again after
switching the root filesystem? Things like that..
> And then this warning can be added without introducing
> request_module_but_dont_warn_about_being_called_from_async().
I do agree that it would be much nicer that way.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-16 3:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-11 21:04 USB device cannot be reconnected and khubd "blocked for more than 120 seconds" Alex Riesen
2013-01-12 7:48 ` Alex Riesen
2013-01-12 9:18 ` Lan Tianyu
2013-01-12 17:37 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-12 19:39 ` Alex Riesen
2013-01-12 20:33 ` Alex Riesen
2013-01-12 22:52 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-13 12:09 ` Alex Riesen
2013-01-13 16:56 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-13 17:42 ` Alex Riesen
2013-01-13 19:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2013-01-14 2:39 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-14 16:43 ` Alex Riesen
2013-01-14 3:47 ` Ming Lei
2013-01-14 7:15 ` Ming Lei
2013-01-14 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-14 18:04 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-14 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-15 1:53 ` Ming Lei
2013-01-15 6:23 ` Ming Lei
2013-01-15 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-15 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-15 23:17 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-15 18:20 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-15 18:39 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-15 18:32 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-15 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-15 23:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 0:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-01-16 0:35 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 4:01 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-16 16:12 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 17:01 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-16 17:37 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 17:51 ` Alan Stern
2013-01-16 0:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-16 0:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-16 2:52 ` [PATCH] module, async: async_synchronize_full() on module init iff async is used Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 3:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-16 3:25 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 3:37 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2013-01-16 16:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-01-16 16:48 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 17:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-01-16 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-16 21:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] init, block: try to load default elevator module early during boot Tejun Heo
2013-01-17 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-17 18:38 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-17 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-17 18:59 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-17 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-18 1:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] workqueue: set PF_WQ_WORKER on rescuers Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 1:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] workqueue, async: implement work/async_current_func() Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 2:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-18 2:59 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 3:04 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 3:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-18 3:47 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 22:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] workqueue: set PF_WQ_WORKER on rescuers Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 22:10 ` [PATCH 2/5] workqueue: rename kernel/workqueue_sched.h to kernel/workqueue_internal.h Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 22:11 ` [PATCH 3/5] workqueue: move struct worker definition to workqueue_internal.h Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 22:11 ` [PATCH 4/5] workqueue: implement current_is_async() Tejun Heo
2013-01-18 22:12 ` [PATCH 5/5] async, kmod: warn on synchronous request_module() from async workers Tejun Heo
2022-06-23 5:25 ` Saravana Kannan
2013-01-18 1:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] " Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 0:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] init, block: try to load default elevator module early during boot Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 21:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: don't request module during elevator init Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 0:51 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 3:30 ` [PATCH] module, async: async_synchronize_full() on module init iff async is used Ming Lei
2013-01-16 4:24 ` Rusty Russell
2013-01-16 11:36 ` Alex Riesen
2013-08-12 7:04 ` [3.8-rc3 -> 3.8-rc4 regression] " Jonathan Nieder
2013-08-12 15:09 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-26 21:29 ` Josh Hunt
2013-11-26 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-26 22:12 ` Josh Hunt
2013-11-26 22:29 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-03 14:28 ` Josh Hunt
2013-12-03 15:19 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-04 23:01 ` Josh Hunt
2013-12-04 23:12 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-26 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-16 0:44 ` USB device cannot be reconnected and khubd "blocked for more than 120 seconds" Tejun Heo
2013-01-16 17:19 ` [PATCH] async: fix __lowest_in_progress() Tejun Heo
2013-01-17 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-17 18:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 0:15 ` [PATCH v2] " Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-16 3:05 ` USB device cannot be reconnected and khubd "blocked for more than 120 seconds" Ming Lei
2013-01-16 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-14 8:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2013-01-14 8:40 ` Ming Lei
2013-01-12 19:56 ` Alex Riesen
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