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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 29/31] parisc: handle page-less SG entries
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:01:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxsH9Lde7wqZi555vqfH2uxeQqC9cjeca9L6Wr=XpyzXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1439363150-8661-30-git-send-email-hch@lst.de>

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> Make all cache invalidation conditional on sg_has_page() and use
> sg_phys to get the physical address directly.

So this worries me a bit (I'm just reacting to one random patch in the series).

The reason?

I think this wants a big honking comment somewhere saying "non-sg_page
accesses are not necessarily cache coherent").

Now, I don't think that's _wrong_, but it's an important distinction:
if you look up pages in the page tables directly, there's a very
subtle difference between then saving just the pfn and saving the
"struct page" of the result.

On sane architectures, this whole cache flushing thing doesn't matter.
Which just means that it's going to be even more subtle on the odd
broken ones..

I'm assuming that anybody who wants to use the page-less
scatter-gather lists always does so on memory that isn't actually
virtually mapped at all, or only does so on sane architectures that
are cache coherent at a physical level, but I'd like that assumption
*documented* somewhere.

(And maybe it is, and I just didn't get to that patch yet)

                   Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-12 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-12  7:05 RFC: prepare for struct scatterlist entries without page backing Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 01/31] scatterlist: add sg_pfn and sg_has_page helpers Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 02/31] scatterlist: use sg_phys() Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 03/31] dma-debug: handle page-less SG entries Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 04/31] x86/pci-nommu: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 05/31] x86/pci-calgary: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 06/31] alpha/pci-noop: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 07/31] alpha/pci_iommu: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 08/31] c6x: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 09/31] ia64/pci_dma: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 10/31] powerpc/iommu: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 11/31] sparc/iommu: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 12/31] mn10300: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 13/31] sparc/ldc: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 14/31] sparc32/io-unit: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 15/31] sparc32/iommu: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 16/31] s390: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12 11:51   ` Sebastian Ott
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 17/31] ia64/sba_iommu: remove sba_sg_address Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 18/31] nios2: handle page-less SG entries Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 19/31] arc: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12 10:28   ` Vineet Gupta
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 20/31] avr32: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  9:36   ` Hans-Christian Egtvedt
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 21/31] blackfin: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 22/31] metag: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 23/31] sh: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 24/31] xtensa: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 25/31] frv: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 26/31] openrisc: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 27/31] mips: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 28/31] powerpc: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 29/31] parisc: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12 16:01   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2015-08-13 14:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-14  3:30       ` Dan Williams
2015-08-14  3:59         ` James Bottomley
2015-08-14  4:11           ` David Miller
2015-08-14 16:17             ` Dan Williams
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 30/31] intel-iommu: " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12  9:51   ` David Woodhouse
2015-08-12  7:05 ` [PATCH 31/31] dma-mapping-common: skip kmemleak checks for " Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12 16:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-13 14:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-12 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-08-12 12:42 ` RFC: prepare for struct scatterlist entries without page backing Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-12 23:37   ` Julian Calaby
2015-08-13 14:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-13 23:40       ` Julian Calaby
2015-08-13 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-13 15:42     ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-12 17:00 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-12 17:56   ` Grant Grundler

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