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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Cc: linux-aio@kvack.org, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] aio: fix sleeping while TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 17:18:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFy2URGTL_XKQhEO_4dTc3KNJDm9Z0O_1Gqs4G3TvW7APg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150202001628.GO2974@kvack.org>

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org> wrote:
>>
>> What's the bug you think could happen?
>
> The bug would be in code that gets run via mutex_lock(), kmap(), or (more
> likely) in the random mm or filesystem code that could be invoked via
> copy_to_user().

Ahh. That would be a bug, yes, but it wouldn't be one in the aio code.

If somebody just does a "schedule()" and thinks that their own private
events are the only thing that can wake it up, and doesn't use one of
the millions of "wait_event_xyz()" variations to actually wait for the
real completion, that is just buggy. Always. Always has been.

So I wouldn't worry too much about it. It has never been correct to do
that, and it's not one of the standard patterns for sleeping anyway.
Which is not to say that it might not exist in some dank corner of the
kernel, of course, but you shouldn't write code trying to make buggy
code like that happy. If we ever find code like that, let's just fix
it where the bug exists, not try to write odd code in places where it
isn't.

And I'd actually be a bit surprised to see that kind of really broken
code. You really almost have to work at it. All our normal "sleep
until X" patterns are much more obvious, and it's just _simpler_ to do
the right thing with "wait_event()" than to mis-code an explicit "set
task state and then just schedule without actually checking the thing
you are waiting for".

                         Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-02  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-01 14:40 [GIT PULL] aio: fix sleeping while TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-01 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-01 22:14   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-01 23:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-01 23:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-02  0:16       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-02  1:18         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2015-02-02  5:29           ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]             ` <CA+55aFwvEcq-rAbqF2qTut=kJgFZZnhHptoPi6FSVrF4+1tBNA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-02  5:54               ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-02 18:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-03 22:23                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-03 23:34                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-03 11:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 11:33             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 11:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 23:24                 ` Jens Axboe
2015-02-04 10:18                   ` [PATCH] block: Simplify bsg complete all Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-04 17:06                     ` Jens Axboe
2015-02-03 12:25             ` [PATCH] iommu/amd: Fix amd_iommu_free_device() Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 17:04               ` Jesse Barnes
2015-02-03 17:34               ` Joerg Roedel
2015-02-03 19:23                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-03 22:56                   ` Joerg Roedel
2015-02-04 14:35               ` Joerg Roedel

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