From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 1/5] Thread-local ABI system call: cache CPU number of running thread
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:59:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFyB98SrhVPL66DAb3+rbn7nHf6K2MmEQD2Uj7F6hNcQEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57068FCC.8000701@redhat.com>
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> (AFAICS set_robust_list was designed with such extensions in mind.)
This is a disease among people who have been taught computer science.
People think that "designing with extensions in mind" is a good idea.
It's a _horrible_ idea.
If you think that "design with extensions in mind" is a good idea,
you're basically saying "I don't know what I might want to do".
I'm not interested in those kinds of kernel interfaces. EVERY SINGLE
TIME when we add a new random non-standard interface that isn't
already used by lots and lots of people, the end result is the same:
nobody actually uses it. There might be one or two very obscure
libraries that use it, and then a couple of special applications that
use those libraries. And that's it.
So unless there is a clear use-case, and clear semantics that people
can agree on as being truly generic and useful for a lot of different
cases, excuse me for being less than impressed.
Anything with a "let's add feature fields" is broken shit. BY DEFINITION.
See my argument?
And btw, ask yourself how well that set_robust_list() extension worked?
(Answer sheet to the above question: it was pure garbage. Instead of
actually ever being extended, the "struct robust_list_head" not only
is fixed, it was horribly misdesigned to the point of requiring a
compat system call. Pure garbage, in other words, and an example of
how *not* to do user interfaces).
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-07 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-04 17:01 [RFC PATCH v6 0/5] Thread-local ABI system call (CPU number cache) Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-04 17:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/5] Thread-local ABI system call: cache CPU number of running thread Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-04 17:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-04 19:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-04 20:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-05 16:02 ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-05 16:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 9:01 ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-07 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 10:39 ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-07 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 12:03 ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-07 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 12:37 ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-07 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-07 12:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-07 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-07 16:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-07 16:50 ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-07 16:59 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2016-04-07 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-07 18:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-07 20:22 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-07 20:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-07 10:40 ` Florian Weimer
2016-04-04 17:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 2/5] Thread-local ABI cpu_id: ARM resume notifier Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-04 17:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 3/5] Thread-local ABI: wire up ARM system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-04 17:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 4/5] Thread-local ABI cpu_id: x86 32/64 resume notifier Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-04 17:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 5/5] Thread-local ABI: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
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