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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Cyrill Gorcunov" <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@suse.de>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/mm] x86/boot/compressed/64: Describe the logic behind the LA57 check
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:42:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFyKOkO1BBYX+-SZyON2FA_FSc9YqVDLU9-pRj1=jh9sUw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180312145049.boh3wmaotim6sfh2@black.fi.intel.com>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov
<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> I disagree that we should decide usefulness of the 5-level paging based on
> size of physical memory on the machine.
>
> Consider use case when you have 100TiB database file. It's pretty
> reasonable to mmap() such file at once even if you don't have 100TiB of
> physical memory to back it up. 1/100 of the file size may still work
> fairly well.
>
> Virtual address space is useful on its own and we shouldn't take the
> value from the user just because he doesn't have tens of terabytes of
> memory.

Absolutely.

Also, I'd suggest enabling 5-level paging as aggressively as possible
by default (ie whenever the hardware supports it), just for test
coverage.

Maybe in a year or two, when we actually have a fair amount of
coverage, we'll then say "ok, this just hurts normal workstations that
have the capability but only have ridiculously small fraction of
memory", and at that point say that unless you have a ton of RAM we'll
default to 4-level.

               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-12 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-26 18:04 [PATCH 0/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Prepare trampoline memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Describe the logic behind LA57 check Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:27   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86/boot/compressed/64: Describe the logic behind the " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 12:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-12 12:43       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 13:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-12 14:04           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 14:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-12 14:50               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 16:42                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-03-12 17:06                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-03-12 17:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-12 17:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-12 17:21                     ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-12 14:52               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Find a place for 32-bit trampoline Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 22:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-02-27  8:14     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:28   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Save and restore trampoline memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:29   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Set up " Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:29   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Prepare new top-level page table for trampoline Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:30   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 19:32 ` [PATCH 0/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Prepare trampoline memory Borislav Petkov
2018-02-26 20:55   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-27  9:32     ` Borislav Petkov

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