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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] x86/pti/64: Remove the SYSCALL64 entry trampoline
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 11:27:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFz1ne3KTzni2Yvsp8ZRFzk+s78ZhKyGeLZvmRivBhFMfA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e3d01ce04315218d3f8ee269528bb774a4d1d60.1532281180.git.luto@kernel.org>

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 10:45 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> This patch changes the code to map the percpu TSS into the user page
> tables to allow the non-trampoline SYSCALL64 path to work under PTI.

Me likey.

However:

> This does not add a new direct information leak, since the TSS is
> readable by Meltdown from the cpu_entry_area alias regardless.

Afaik, it does now potentially expose through meltdown the per-thread
entry stack info, which is new.

But I don't think that's a show-stopper.

>  static void __init pti_clone_user_shared(void)
>  {
> +       for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {

But this code is pretty disgusting and seems wrong.

Do you really want to do all trhe _possible_ cpu's, not just the
online ones? I'd rather expose less (think MAXCPU) and then have the
CPU hotplug code expose the page as the CPU comes up?

> +               unsigned long va = (unsigned long)&per_cpu(cpu_tss_rw, cpu);
> +               phys_addr_t pa = per_cpu_ptr_to_phys((void *)va);
> +               pte_t *target_pte;
> +
> +               target_pte = pti_user_pagetable_walk_pte(va);

This function only exists if CONFIG_X86_VSYSCALL_EMULATION, so it
won't even compile under (very unusual) configurations.

The "disgusting" part is that I think it could/should share more code
with the vsyscall case, and the whole target-pte checking and setting
should be shared too.

Beause not being shared, I react to this:

> +               set_pte(target_pte, pfn_pte(pa >> PAGE_SHIFT, PAGE_KERNEL));

Hmm. The vsyscall code just does

        *target_pte = ..

without any set_pte() stuff. Do we want/need the PVOP cases, and if
so, why doesn't the vsyscall case need it?

Anyway, I love the approach, and how this gets rid of the nasty
trampoline, so no real complaints, just "this needs some fixups".

                Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-22 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-22 17:45 [RFC 0/2] Get rid of the entry trampoline Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-22 17:45 ` [RFC 1/2] x86/entry/64: Use the TSS sp2 slot for rsp_scratch Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-22 20:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-07-23 12:38   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-24  2:36     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-22 17:45 ` [RFC 2/2] x86/pti/64: Remove the SYSCALL64 entry trampoline Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-22 18:27   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-07-22 20:59     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-23 12:59   ` Dave Hansen

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