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From: Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"osalvador@suse.de" <osalvador@suse.de>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/sparse: Consistently do not zero memmap
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:53:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bA3gM4pMSj-wDWgAPNoPtcjwd59_6VivKA2Uf2GriASsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191030153150.GI31513@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:31 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed 30-10-19 11:20:44, Pavel Tatashin wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:13 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > [Add Pavel - the email thread starts http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191030131122.8256-1-vincent.whitchurch@axis.com
> > >  but it used your old email address]
> > >
> > > On Wed 30-10-19 15:02:16, Vincent Whitchurch wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 02:29:58PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > On Wed 30-10-19 14:11:22, Vincent Whitchurch wrote:
> > > > > > (I noticed this because on my ARM64 platform, with 1 GiB of memory the
> > > > > >  first [and only] section is allocated from the zeroing path while with
> > > > > >  2 GiB of memory the first 1 GiB section is allocated from the
> > > > > >  non-zeroing path.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Do I get it right that sparse_buffer_init couldn't allocate memmap for
> > > > > the full node for some reason and so sparse_init_nid would have to
> > > > > allocate one for each memory section?
> > > >
> > > > Not quite.  The sparsemap_buf is successfully allocated with the correct
> > > > size in sparse_buffer_init(), but sparse_buffer_alloc() fails to
> > > > allocate the same size from it.
> > > >
> > > > The reason it fails is that sparse_buffer_alloc() for some reason wants
> > > > to return a pointer which is aligned to the allocation size.  But the
> > > > sparsemap_buf was only allocated with PAGE_SIZE alignment so there's not
> > > > enough space to align it.
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand the reason for this alignment requirement since the
> > > > fallback path also allocates with PAGE_SIZE alignment.  I'm guessing the
> > > > alignment is for the VMEMAP code which also uses sparse_buffer_alloc()?
> > >
> > > I am not 100% sure TBH. Aligning makes some sense when mapping the
> > > memmaps to page tables but that would suggest that sparse_buffer_init
> > > is using a wrong alignment then. It is quite wasteful to allocate
> > > alarge misaligned block like that.
> > >
> > > Your patch still makes sense but this is something to look into.
> > >
> > > Pavel?
> >
> > I remember thinking about this large alignment, as it looked out of
> > place to me also.
> > It was there to keep memmap in single chunks on larger x86 machines.
> > Perhaps it can be revisited now.
>
> Don't we need 2MB aligned memmaps for their PMD mappings?

Yes, PMD_SIZE should be the alignment here. It just does not make
sense to align to size.

Pasha

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-30 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-30 13:11 [PATCH] mm/sparse: Consistently do not zero memmap Vincent Whitchurch
2019-10-30 13:29 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-30 14:02   ` Vincent Whitchurch
2019-10-30 14:12     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-30 15:20       ` Pavel Tatashin
2019-10-30 15:31         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-30 16:53           ` Pavel Tatashin [this message]
2019-10-30 17:31             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-30 17:53               ` Pavel Tatashin
2019-10-30 18:01                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-30 18:23                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2019-10-31  7:25               ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-04 15:51                 ` Vincent Whitchurch
2019-11-05  8:43                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-15 23:55                     ` Andrew Morton
2019-11-18 11:28                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-30 13:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-30 13:38 ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-30 15:21 ` Pavel Tatashin

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