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From: Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>
To: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
Cc: "Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Riley Andrews" <riandrews@android.com>,
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	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Brian Starkey" <brian.starkey@arm.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/12] Ion cleanup in preparation for moving out of staging
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 14:34:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+M3ks6R=n4n54wofK7pYcWoQKUhzyWQytBO90+pRDRrAhi3ww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26bc57ae-d88f-4ea0-d666-2c1a02bf866f@redhat.com>

2017-03-09 18:38 GMT+01:00 Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>:
> On 03/09/2017 02:00 AM, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
>> 2017-03-06 17:04 GMT+01:00 Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>:
>>> On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 11:58:05AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 11:40:41AM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No one gave a thing about android in upstream, so Greg KH just dumped it
>>>>> all into staging/android/. We've discussed ION a bunch of times, recorded
>>>>> anything we'd like to fix in staging/android/TODO, and Laura's patch
>>>>> series here addresses a big chunk of that.
>>>>
>>>>> This is pretty much the same approach we (gpu folks) used to de-stage the
>>>>> syncpt stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Well, there's also the fact that quite a few people have issues with the
>>>> design (like Laurent).  It seems like a lot of them have either got more
>>>> comfortable with it over time, or at least not managed to come up with
>>>> any better ideas in the meantime.
>>>
>>> See the TODO, it has everything a really big group (look at the patch for
>>> the full Cc: list) figured needs to be improved at LPC 2015. We don't just
>>> merge stuff because merging stuff is fun :-)
>>>
>>> Laurent was even in that group ...
>>> -Daniel
>>
>> For me those patches are going in the right direction.
>>
>> I still have few questions:
>> - since alignment management has been remove from ion-core, should it
>> be also removed from ioctl structure ?
>
> Yes, I think I'm going to go with the suggestion to fixup the ABI
> so we don't need the compat layer and as part of that I'm also
> dropping the align argument.
>
>> - can you we ride off ion_handle (at least in userland) and only
>> export a dma-buf descriptor ?
>
> Yes, I think this is the right direction given we're breaking
> everything anyway. I was debating trying to keep the two but
> moving to only dma bufs is probably cleaner. The only reason
> I could see for keeping the handles is running out of file
> descriptors for dma-bufs but that seems unlikely.
>>
>> In the future how can we add new heaps ?
>> Some platforms have very specific memory allocation
>> requirements (just have a look in the number of gem custom allocator in drm)
>> Do you plan to add heap type/mask for each ?
>
> Yes, that was my thinking.

My concern is about the policy to adding heaps, will you accept
"customs" heap per
platforms ? per devices ? or only generic ones ?
If you are too strict, we will have lot of out-of-tree heaps and if
you accept of of them
it will be a nightmare to maintain....

Another point is how can we put secure rules (like selinux policy) on
heaps since all the allocations
go to the same device (/dev/ion) ? For example, until now, in Android
we have to give the same
access rights to all the process that use ION.
It will become problem when we will add secure heaps because we won't
be able to distinguish secure
processes to standard ones or set specific policy per heaps.
Maybe I'm wrong here but I have never see selinux policy checking an
ioctl field but if that
exist it could be a solution.

>
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-12 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-02 21:44 [RFC PATCH 00/12] Ion cleanup in preparation for moving out of staging Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] staging: android: ion: Remove dmap_cnt Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] staging: android: ion: Remove alignment from allocation field Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] staging: android: ion: Duplicate sg_table Laura Abbott
2017-03-03  8:18   ` Hillf Danton
2017-03-03 18:41     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] staging: android: ion: Call dma_map_sg for syncing and mapping Laura Abbott
2017-03-03 11:04   ` Dan Carpenter
2017-03-03 11:58     ` Eric Engestrom
2017-03-03 16:37   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-03 18:40     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] staging: android: ion: Remove page faulting support Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] staging: android: ion: Remove crufty cache support Laura Abbott
2017-03-03  9:56   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-03 16:39     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-03 18:46       ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-06 10:29         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-06 17:00           ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-06 19:20             ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] staging: android: ion: Remove old platform support Laura Abbott
2017-03-03 10:31   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] cma: Store a name in the cma structure Laura Abbott
2017-03-10  8:53   ` Sumit Semwal
2017-03-17 18:02     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] cma: Introduce cma_for_each_area Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] staging: android: ion: Use CMA APIs directly Laura Abbott
2017-03-03 16:41   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-03 18:50     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-06 10:32       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-06 13:43         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-06 15:52           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-06 19:14             ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] staging: android: ion: Make Ion heaps selectable Laura Abbott
2017-03-03 10:33   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-03 19:10     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-02 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] staging; android: ion: Enumerate all available heaps Laura Abbott
2017-03-03 10:39   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-03 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] Ion cleanup in preparation for moving out of staging Daniel Vetter
2017-03-03 10:27   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-03 12:54     ` Benjamin Gaignard
2017-03-03 16:45   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-03 19:16     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-06 10:38     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-06 15:02       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-06 16:01         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-03 13:29 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-03 17:37   ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-06  7:42     ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 10:40       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-06 10:58         ` Mark Brown
2017-03-06 16:04           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-09 10:00             ` Benjamin Gaignard
2017-03-09 17:38               ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-10 10:31                 ` Brian Starkey
2017-03-10 11:46                   ` Robin Murphy
2017-03-10 14:27                     ` Brian Starkey
2017-03-10 16:46                       ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-10 12:40                   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-10 13:56                     ` Rob Clark
2017-03-12 13:34                 ` Benjamin Gaignard [this message]
2017-03-12 19:05                   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-03-13 21:09                     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-13 21:29                       ` Rob Clark
2017-03-13 21:59                         ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-14 14:47                       ` Benjamin Gaignard
2017-03-14 19:45                         ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-14 20:28                         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-03-13 10:54                   ` Brian Starkey
2017-03-13 13:21                     ` Mark Brown
2017-03-13 21:45                       ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-13 21:29                     ` Laura Abbott
2017-03-06 13:34         ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-03 16:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-03 19:14   ` Laura Abbott

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