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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	XFS Developers <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: xfstests xfs fuzzers fail with DAX
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 07:53:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA9_cmfFMGQHTA_N5CGbXhdc=4qJsJbNJXu0WyUEJp7YguFo7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160830023727.GH22760@birch.djwong.org>

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Darrick J. Wong
<darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 06:50:05PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> [ Adding Darrick on the off chance that this triggers an "aha, of
>> course it does!" ]
>
> Aha!  Of course it does!!! :)

Heh, thanks :).  And apologies to Dave for missing his earlier note
pointing out the delalloc failure, linux-nvdimm list ate the response.

>
>> Darrick these corruption tests you added to xfstests last year all
>> fail the same way with DAX enabled.  They spew:
>>
>>     "pwrite64: Structure needs cleaning"
>>
>> ...reports that are cleaned up by running without "-o dax".
>
> I think this happens because in non-dax mode, the pwrite is a buffered
> write and so long as we can create a delalloc reservation, everything
> is ok and nothing fails.  Whereas for dax we have to allocate the
> blocks for the pwrite immediately, thereby triggering the cntbt
> verifier error.
>
> Proceeding from the assumption "DAX behaves a lot like DIO", all the
> tests that rely on buffered mode semantics are going to choke if DAX
> is turned on without them knowing about it.
>
>> Alternatively you could sit back and watch me try to figure it out,
>> that should be quite entertaining... as a start I'll try to pin down a
>> stack trace when the error is returned.
>
> As for how to fix this, probably the best option is to change line 98
> to 'pwrite -W -S 0x62...' and update the output to include the
> 'structure needs cleaning' message.

I'll give it a shot.

> Or get rid of the mount option and require explicitly turning on DAX
> on a per-inode basis, which I think is where Dave is already going.

Yes, I think we can't run away from the dax mount option fast enough.
The semantics are different, so an application / administrator needs
to explicitly opt-in to DAX semantics per-inode otherwise we are
guaranteed to cause surprises.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-30 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04  2:45 xfstests xfs fuzzers fail with DAX Xiong Zhou
2016-08-30  1:50 ` Dan Williams
2016-08-30  2:37   ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-08-30 14:53     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2016-08-30 16:25       ` Dan Williams
2016-08-30 16:39         ` Darrick J. Wong

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