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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: paulmck@kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team@fb.com, Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC cpumask 4/5] cpumask: Add "last" alias for cpu list specifications
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 13:16:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAH8bW9jfSeYe+d6feQUTKuqwKr_U0aCGPZEiBh6Hp=KT2iPrA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X/WHk1hY3cmMAXQz@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:50 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 04:49:55PM -0800, paulmck@kernel.org wrote:
> > From: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
> >
> > It seems that a common configuration is to use the 1st couple cores
> > for housekeeping tasks, and or driving a busy peripheral that generates
> > a lot of interrupts, or something similar.
> >
> > This tends to leave the remaining ones to form a pool of similarly
> > configured cores to take on the real workload of interest to the user.
> >
> > So on machine A - with 32 cores, it could be 0-3 for "system" and then
> > 4-31 being used in boot args like nohz_full=, or rcu_nocbs= as part of
> > setting up the worker pool of CPUs.
> >
> > But then newer machine B is added, and it has 48 cores, and so while
> > the 0-3 part remains unchanged, the pool setup cpu list becomes 4-47.
> >
> > Deployment would be easier if we could just simply replace 31 and 47
> > with "last" and let the system substitute in the actual number at boot;
> > a number that it knows better than we do.
> >
> > No need to have custom boot args per node, no need to do a trial boot
> > in order to snoop /proc/cpuinfo and/or /sys/devices/system/cpu - no
> > more fencepost errors of using 32 and 48 instead of 31 and 47.
> >
> > A generic token replacement is used to substitute "last" with the
> > number of CPUs present before handing off to bitmap processing.  But
> > it could just as easily be used to replace any placeholder token with
> > any other token or value only known at/after boot.
>
> Aside from the comments Yury made, on how all this is better in
> bitmap_parselist(), how about doing s/last/N/ here? For me something
> like: "4-N" reads much saner than "4-last".
>
> Also, it might make sense to teach all this about core/node topology,
> but that's going to be messy. Imagine something like "Core1-CoreN" or
> "Nore1-NodeN" to mean the mask all/{Core,Node}0.

If you just want to teach bitmap_parselist() to "s/Core0/0-4",  I think
it's doable if we add a hook to a proper subsystem in bitmap_parselist().

> And that is another feature that seems to be missing from parselist,
> all/except.

We already support groups in a range. I think it partially covers the
proposed all/except.

Can you share examples on what you miss?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-06 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-06  0:48 [PATCH RFC cpumask] Allow "all", "none", and "last" in cpumask strings Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-06  0:49 ` [PATCH RFC cpumask 1/5] cpumask: Un-inline cpulist_parse for SMP; prepare for ascii helpers paulmck
2021-01-06  0:49 ` [PATCH RFC cpumask 2/5] cpumask: Make "all" alias global and not just RCU paulmck
2021-01-06  6:32   ` Yury Norov
2021-01-06  0:49 ` [PATCH RFC cpumask 3/5] cpumask: Add a "none" alias to complement "all" paulmck
2021-01-06  6:59   ` Yury Norov
2021-01-06  0:49 ` [PATCH RFC cpumask 4/5] cpumask: Add "last" alias for cpu list specifications paulmck
2021-01-06  8:41   ` Yury Norov
2021-01-06  9:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-06 17:45     ` Paul Gortmaker
2021-01-06 21:16     ` Yury Norov [this message]
2021-01-07 14:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-07 14:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-07 14:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-07 15:32             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-07 15:05         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-06  0:49 ` [PATCH RFC cpumask 5/5] rcutorture: Use "all" and "last" in "nohz_full" and "rcu_nocbs" paulmck
2021-01-06  8:49 ` [PATCH RFC cpumask] Allow "all", "none", and "last" in cpumask strings Yury Norov
2021-01-21  7:11   ` Yury Norov
2021-01-21 16:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-21 21:39       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-21 22:42     ` Paul Gortmaker

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