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From: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>
To: Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chunyan Zhang <zhang.lyra@gmail.com>,
	Ryan Y <xuewyan@foxmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/pelt: Add UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED flag for last_enqueued_diff
Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 09:34:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAB8ipk8MK-j_oigJQoKutRxr22iKvWfDx1MgcSsy4s2=90QaFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210506162600.GA11916@ubiquitous>

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:26 AM Vincent Donnefort
<vincent.donnefort@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 08:46:08PM +0800, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> > Hi
> > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 8:28 PM Vincent Donnefort
> > <vincent.donnefort@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 07:09:36PM +0800, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> > > > From: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>
> > > >
> > > > The UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED flag had been cleared when the task util changed.
> > > > And the enqueued is equal to task_util with the flag, so it is better
> > > > to add the UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED flag for last_enqueued_diff.
>
> Could we change the description here a bit? I don't think this is accurately
> explaning the issue. Would probably be interesting to mention that by not
> setting the flag, which is the LSB, we add +1 to the diff. This is therefore
> reducing slightly UTIL_EST_MARGIN.

ok, If you agree with this patch, I'll change it in V2.
>
> > > >
> > > > Fixes: b89997aa88f0b sched/pelt: Fix task util_est update filtering
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 2 +-
> > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > index e5e457fa9dc8..94d77b4fa601 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > @@ -3996,7 +3996,7 @@ static inline void util_est_update(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq,
> > > >       if (ue.enqueued & UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED)
> > > >               return;
> > > >
> > > > -     last_enqueued_diff = ue.enqueued;
> > > > +     last_enqueued_diff = (ue.enqueued | UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED);
> > > >
> > > >       /*
> > > >        * Reset EWMA on utilization increases, the moving average is used only
> > > > --
> > > > 2.29.0
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We do indeed for the diff use the flag for the value updated and no flag for the
> > > value before the update. However, last_enqueued_diff is only used for the margin
> > > check which is an heuristic and is not an accurate value (~1%) and as we know
> > The last_enqueued_diff is compared with the UTIL_EST_MARGIN which is
> > "1024/100 = 10",
> > and The LSB may cause ~10% error.
>
> I meant ~1% being the original margin. With the bit set, we would use 0.87% instead
> of 0.97%.

Because the within_margin() does not contain “=”, if the enqueued
without the flag, the margin may be 0.97%(10/1024),
with the flag, be 1.07%(11/1024) instead of 0.87% I think.
>
> > > we already loose the LSB in util_est, I'm not sure this is really necessary.
> > I'm also not very sure, maybe the calculation will be more rigorous
> > with the flag?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Vincent
> > >

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-07  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-06 11:09 [PATCH] sched/pelt: Add UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED flag for last_enqueued_diff Xuewen Yan
2021-05-06 12:28 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-05-06 12:46   ` Xuewen Yan
2021-05-06 16:26     ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-05-07  1:34       ` Xuewen Yan [this message]
2021-05-07  6:53         ` Vincent Guittot
2021-05-07 10:26           ` Xuewen Yan

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