From: Fox Chen <foxhlchen@gmail.com>
To: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
miklos@szeredi.hu, ricklind@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
sfr@canb.auug.org.au, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] kernfs: proposed locking and concurrency improvement
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:14:13 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC2o3DJdHuQxY7Rn5uXUprS7i8ri1qB=wOUM2rdZkWt4yJHv1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bde0b6c32f2b055c1ad1401b45c4adf61aab6876.camel@themaw.net>
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:46 AM Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 10:17 +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 10:01 +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
> > > > For the patches, there is a mutex_lock in kn->attr_mutex, as
> > > > Tejun
> > > > mentioned here
> > > > (https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/X8fe0cmu+aq1gi7O@mtj.duckdns.org/),
> > > > maybe a global
> > > > rwsem for kn->iattr will be better??
> > >
> > > I wasn't sure about that, IIRC a spin lock could be used around the
> > > initial check and checked again at the end which would probably
> > > have
> > > been much faster but much less conservative and a bit more ugly so
> > > I just went the conservative path since there was so much change
> > > already.
> >
> > Sorry, I hadn't looked at Tejun's reply yet and TBH didn't remember
> > it.
> >
> > Based on what Tejun said it sounds like that needs work.
>
> Those attribute handling patches were meant to allow taking the rw
> sem read lock instead of the write lock for kernfs_refresh_inode()
> updates, with the added locking to protect the inode attributes
> update since it's called from the VFS both with and without the
> inode lock.
Oh, understood. I was asking also because lock on kn->attr_mutex drags
concurrent performance.
> Looking around it looks like kernfs_iattrs() is called from multiple
> places without a node database lock at all.
>
> I'm thinking that, to keep my proposed change straight forward
> and on topic, I should just leave kernfs_refresh_inode() taking
> the node db write lock for now and consider the attributes handling
> as a separate change. Once that's done we could reconsider what's
> needed to use the node db read lock in kernfs_refresh_inode().
You meant taking write lock of kernfs_rwsem for kernfs_refresh_inode()??
It may be a lot slower in my benchmark, let me test it.
> It will reduce the effectiveness of the series but it would make
> this change much more complicated, and is somewhat off-topic, and
> could hamper the chances of reviewers spotting problem with it.
>
> Ian
>
thanks,
fox
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-14 6:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-17 7:37 [PATCH v2 0/6] kernfs: proposed locking and concurrency improvement Ian Kent
2020-06-17 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] kernfs: switch kernfs to use an rwsem Ian Kent
2020-06-17 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] kernfs: move revalidate to be near lookup Ian Kent
2020-06-17 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] kernfs: improve kernfs path resolution Ian Kent
2020-06-17 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] kernfs: use revision to identify directory node changes Ian Kent
2020-06-17 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] kernfs: refactor attr locking Ian Kent
2020-06-17 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] kernfs: make attr_mutex a local kernfs node lock Ian Kent
2020-06-19 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] kernfs: proposed locking and concurrency improvement Tejun Heo
2020-06-19 20:41 ` Rick Lindsley
2020-06-19 22:23 ` Tejun Heo
2020-06-20 2:44 ` Rick Lindsley
2020-06-22 17:53 ` Tejun Heo
2020-06-22 21:22 ` Rick Lindsley
2020-06-23 23:13 ` Tejun Heo
2020-06-24 9:04 ` Rick Lindsley
2020-06-24 9:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-24 13:19 ` Tejun Heo
2020-06-25 8:15 ` Ian Kent
2020-06-25 9:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-26 0:19 ` Ian Kent
2020-06-21 4:55 ` Ian Kent
2020-06-22 17:48 ` Tejun Heo
2020-06-22 18:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-22 21:27 ` Rick Lindsley
2020-06-23 5:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-23 5:09 ` Ian Kent
2020-06-23 6:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-23 8:01 ` Ian Kent
2020-06-23 8:29 ` Ian Kent
2020-06-23 11:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-23 9:33 ` Rick Lindsley
2020-06-23 11:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-23 22:55 ` Rick Lindsley
2020-06-23 11:51 ` Ian Kent
2020-06-21 3:21 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-10 16:44 ` Fox Chen
2020-12-11 2:01 ` [PATCH " Ian Kent
2020-12-11 2:17 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-13 3:46 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-14 6:14 ` Fox Chen [this message]
2020-12-14 13:30 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-15 8:33 ` Fox Chen
2020-12-15 12:59 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-17 4:46 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-17 8:54 ` Fox Chen
2020-12-17 10:09 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-17 11:09 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-17 11:48 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-17 15:14 ` Tejun Heo
2020-12-18 7:36 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-18 8:01 ` Fox Chen
2020-12-18 11:21 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-18 13:20 ` Fox Chen
2020-12-19 0:53 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-19 7:47 ` Fox Chen
2020-12-22 2:17 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-18 14:59 ` Tejun Heo
2020-12-19 7:08 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-19 16:23 ` Tejun Heo
2020-12-19 23:52 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-20 1:37 ` Ian Kent
2020-12-21 9:28 ` Fox Chen
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to='CAC2o3DJdHuQxY7Rn5uXUprS7i8ri1qB=wOUM2rdZkWt4yJHv1w@mail.gmail.com' \
--to=foxhlchen@gmail.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=dhowells@redhat.com \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=miklos@szeredi.hu \
--cc=raven@themaw.net \
--cc=ricklind@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=sfr@canb.auug.org.au \
--cc=tj@kernel.org \
--cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).