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From: Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
To: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-audit@redhat.com, SE-Linux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	jamal@mojatatu.com, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6][v2] audit: implement multicast socket for journald
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:22:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACLa4psQyoaZTE7R0qiog_biMKXyeGtLc1AQUuEPtemMYcDCSQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5357E1B4.2030705@redhat.com>

They would be equivalent if and only if journald had CAP_AUDIT_READ.

I suggest you take CAP_AUDIT_READ away from journald on systems which
need the secadm/sysadmin split (which is a ridiculously stupid split
anyway, but who am I to complain?)

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com> wrote:
> Meaning looking at the journal would be equivalent to looking at
> /var/log/audit/audit.log.
>
>
> On 04/23/2014 11:37 AM, Eric Paris wrote:
>> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 11:36 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>> I guess the problem would be that the sysadm_t would be able to look at
>>> the journal which would now contain the audit content.
>> right.  so include it in the sysadm_secadm bool
>>
>>> On 04/23/2014 10:42 AM, Eric Paris wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 09:40 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>>>> Here are the capabilities we currently give to sysadm_t with
>>>>> sysadm_secadm    1.0.0    Disabled
>>>>>
>>>>>    allow sysadm_t sysadm_t : capability { chown dac_override
>>>>> dac_read_search fowner fsetid kill setgid setuid setpcap linux_immutable
>>>>> net_bind_service net_broadcast net_admin net_raw ipc_lock ipc_owner
>>>>> sys_rawio sys_chroot sys_ptrace sys_pacct sys_admin sys_boot sys_nice
>>>>> sys_resource sys_time sys_tty_config mknod lease audit_write setfcap } ;
>>>>>    allow sysadm_t sysadm_t : capability { setgid setuid sys_chroot }
>>>>>
>>>>>    allow sysadm_t sysadm_t : capability2 { syslog block_suspend } ;
>>>>>
>>>>> cap_audit_write might be a problem?
>>>> cap_audit_write is fine.
>>>>
>>>> syslogd_t (aka journal) is going to need the new permission
>>>> cap_audit_read.  Also, as steve pointed out, someone may be likely to
>>>> want to be able to disable that permission easily.
>>>>
>>>> -Eric
>>>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-24 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-21 16:39 [PATCH] netlink: have netlink per-protocol bind function return an error code Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-23  4:50 ` David Miller
2014-03-24 14:38   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-24 18:34     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-24 18:35       ` [PATCH][v3] " Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-24 19:37         ` [PATCH][v4] " Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-24 20:59       ` [PATCH][v5] " Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-26 19:52         ` David Miller
2014-03-26 20:09           ` v6 superceded it [was: Re: [PATCH][v5] netlink: have netlink per-protocol bind function return an error code.] Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-25 12:50       ` [PATCH][v6] netlink: have netlink per-protocol bind function return an error code Richard Guy Briggs
2014-03-26 20:46         ` David Miller
2014-03-26 23:13         ` Patrick McHardy
2014-03-25 13:11       ` unbind [was: Re: [PATCH] netlink: have netlink per-protocol bind function return] " Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-01 14:14       ` [PATCH 0/3] netlink: per-protocol bind fixup/enhancement set Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-01 14:14         ` [PATCH 1/3] netlink: simplify nfnetlink_bind Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-01 14:14         ` [PATCH 2/3][v7] netlink: have netlink per-protocol bind function return an error code Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-01 14:14         ` [PATCH 3/3] netlink: implement unbind to netlink_setsockopt NETLINK_DROP_MEMBERSHIP Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-01 21:33         ` [PATCH 0/3] netlink: per-protocol bind fixup/enhancement set David Miller
2014-04-01 22:12           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-01 22:21             ` David Miller
2014-04-18 17:34       ` [PATCH 0/6] audit: implement multicast socket for journald Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-18 17:34         ` [PATCH 1/6] netlink: simplify nfnetlink_bind Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-18 17:34         ` [PATCH 2/6] netlink: have netlink per-protocol bind function return an error code Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-22 20:19           ` David Miller
2014-04-23  1:30             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:31             ` [PATCH 0/6][v2] audit: implement multicast socket for journald Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:31               ` [PATCH 1/6][v2] netlink: simplify nfnetlink_bind Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:31               ` [PATCH 2/6][v2] netlink: have netlink per-protocol bind function return an error code Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:31               ` [PATCH 3/6][v2] netlink: implement unbind to netlink_setsockopt NETLINK_DROP_MEMBERSHIP Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:31               ` [PATCH 4/6][v2] audit: add netlink audit protocol bind to check capabilities on multicast join Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:31               ` [PATCH 5/6][v2] audit: add netlink multicast group for log read Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:31               ` [PATCH 6/6][v2] audit: send multicast messages only if there are listeners Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  1:43               ` [PATCH 0/6][v2] audit: implement multicast socket for journald David Miller
2014-04-23  1:49                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-23  3:55                   ` David Miller
2014-04-23  2:25               ` Steve Grubb
2014-04-23  3:57                 ` Eric Paris
2014-04-23 13:40                   ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-23 14:42                     ` Eric Paris
2014-04-23 15:36                       ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-23 15:37                         ` Eric Paris
2014-04-23 15:52                           ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-24 13:22                             ` Eric Paris [this message]
2014-04-24 14:59                               ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-24 15:03                                 ` Eric Paris
2014-04-24 16:03                                   ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-18 17:34         ` [PATCH 3/6] netlink: implement unbind to netlink_setsockopt NETLINK_DROP_MEMBERSHIP Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-18 17:34         ` [PATCH 4/6] audit: add netlink audit protocol bind to check capabilities on multicast join Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-18 17:34         ` [PATCH 5/6] audit: add netlink multicast group for log read Richard Guy Briggs
2014-04-18 17:34         ` [PATCH 6/6] audit: send multicast messages only if there are listeners Richard Guy Briggs

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