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From: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:56:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACO55ttOgx=jyCh_uZLH4t8C5SW0f2u3BSrw93vPmusM98p0Mg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191121125236.GX11621@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:52 PM Mika Westerberg
<mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 01:46:14PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:34:22PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:28 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:29:33PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > > last week or so I found systems where the GPU was under the "PCI
> > > > > > Express Root Port" (name from lspci) and on those systems all of that
> > > > > > seems to work. So I am wondering if it's indeed just the 0x1901 one,
> > > > > > which also explains Mikas case that Thunderbolt stuff works as devices
> > > > > > never get populated under this particular bridge controller, but under
> > > > > > those "Root Port"s
> > > > >
> > > > > It always is a PCIe port, but its location within the SoC may matter.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly. Intel hardware has PCIe ports on CPU side (these are called
> > > > PEG, PCI Express Graphics, ports), and the PCH side. I think the IP is
> > > > still the same.
> > > >
> > > > > Also some custom AML-based power management is involved and that may
> > > > > be making specific assumptions on the configuration of the SoC and the
> > > > > GPU at the time of its invocation which unfortunately are not known to
> > > > > us.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, it looks like the AML invoked to power down the GPU from
> > > > > acpi_pci_set_power_state() gets confused if it is not in PCI D0 at
> > > > > that point, so it looks like that AML tries to access device memory on
> > > > > the GPU (beyond the PCI config space) or similar which is not
> > > > > accessible in PCI power states below D0.
> > > >
> > > > Or the PCI config space of the GPU when the parent root port is in D3hot
> > > > (as it is the case here). Also then the GPU config space is not
> > > > accessible.
> > >
> > > Why would the parent port be in D3hot at that point?  Wouldn't that be
> > > a suspend ordering violation?
> >
> > No. We put the GPU into D3hot first, then the root port and then turn
> > off the power resource (which is attached to the root port) resulting
> > the topology entering D3cold.
>
> I don't see that happening in the AML though.
>
> Basically the difference is that when Windows 7 or Linux (the _REV==5
> check) then we directly do link disable whereas in Windows 8+ we invoke
> LKDS() method that puts the link into L2/L3. None of the fields they
> access seem to touch the GPU itself.
>
> LKDS() for the first PEG port looks like this:
>
>    P0L2 = One
>    Sleep (0x10)
>    Local0 = Zero
>    While (P0L2)
>    {
>         If ((Local0 > 0x04))
>         {
>             Break
>         }
>
>         Sleep (0x10)
>         Local0++
>    }
>
> One thing that comes to mind is that the loop can end even if P0L2 is
> not cleared as it does only 5 iterations with 16 ms sleep between. Maybe
> Sleep() is implemented differently in Windows? I mean Linux may be
> "faster" here and return prematurely and if we leave the port into D0
> this does not happen, or something. I'm just throwing out ideas :)
>

keep in mind, that I am able to hit this bug with my python script:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/karolherbst/pci-stub-runpm/master/nv_runpm_bug_test.py


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17 12:19 [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 20:06 ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 21:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 22:26   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:57     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-20 10:18     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 10:52       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:22         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:06               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:09                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:14                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:19                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:54             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:58               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 12:11                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:15                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:37                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:53                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 21:36                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 10:14                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:08                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:17                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:31                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:40                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 22:29                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:28                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:34                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:46                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:52                                       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:56                                         ` Karol Herbst [this message]
2019-11-21 15:43                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 19:49                                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 22:39                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:50                                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  0:13                                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  9:07                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:30                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 10:36                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 11:30                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:34                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:54                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:52                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 12:15                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 12:52                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 15:47                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:06                                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:39                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-26 23:10                                               ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 11:48                                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:51                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 19:51                                                     ` Lyude Paul
2019-12-09 11:17                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-09 11:38                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-09 12:24                                                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-10 19:58                                                           ` Dave Airlie
2019-12-10 20:49                                                             ` Karol Herbst
2020-01-13 15:31                                                               ` Karol Herbst

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