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From: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@intel.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 13:09:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACO55tupFbq0T1DcR+C+YxtPR=csPBQhwVXz_SHWT5F8bRK8JA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0ithxMPK2YxfTUx_Ygpze2FMDJ6LwKwJb2vx89dfgHX_A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:06 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:51 PM Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:48 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:22 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:52:22AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:18 AM Mika Westerberg
> > > > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
>
> [cut]
>
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, so does it look like we are trying to work around AML that tried
> > > > > to work around some problematic behavior in Linux at one point?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it looks like so if I read the ASL right.
> > >
> > > OK, so that would call for a DMI-based quirk as the real cause for the
> > > issue seems to be the AML in question, which means a firmware problem.
> > >
> >
> > And I disagree as this is a linux specific workaround and windows goes
> > that path and succeeds. This firmware based workaround was added,
> > because it broke on Linux.
>
> Apparently so at the time it was added, but would it still break after
> the kernel changes made since then?
>
> Moreover, has it not become harmful now?  IOW, wouldn't it work after
> removing the "Linux workaround" from the AML?
>
> The only way to verify that I can see would be to run the system with
> custom ACPI tables without the "Linux workaround" in the AML in
> question.
>

the workaround is not enabled by default, because it has to be
explicitly enabled by the user.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-20 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17 12:19 [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 20:06 ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 21:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 22:26   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:57     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-20 10:18     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 10:52       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:22         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:06               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:09                 ` Karol Herbst [this message]
2019-11-20 12:14                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:19                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:54             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:58               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 12:11                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:15                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:37                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:53                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 21:36                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 10:14                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:08                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:17                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:31                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:40                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 22:29                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:28                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:34                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:46                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:52                                       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:56                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 15:43                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 19:49                                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 22:39                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:50                                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  0:13                                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  9:07                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:30                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 10:36                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 11:30                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:34                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:54                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:52                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 12:15                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 12:52                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 15:47                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:06                                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:39                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-26 23:10                                               ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 11:48                                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:51                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 19:51                                                     ` Lyude Paul
2019-12-09 11:17                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-09 11:38                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-09 12:24                                                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-10 19:58                                                           ` Dave Airlie
2019-12-10 20:49                                                             ` Karol Herbst
2020-01-13 15:31                                                               ` Karol Herbst

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