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From: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Salman Qazi <sqazi@google.com>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Gwendal Grignou <gwendal@google.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>
Subject: Re: BLKSECDISCARD ioctl and hung tasks
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:22:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACVXFVP114+QBhw1bXqwgKRw_s4tBM_ZkuvjdXEU7nwkbJuH1Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de7b841c-a195-1b1e-eb60-02cbd6ba4e0a@acm.org>

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:50 PM Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org> wrote:
>
> On 2020-02-13 11:21, Salman Qazi wrote:
> > AFAICT, This is not actually sufficient, because the issuer of the bio
> > is waiting for the entire bio, regardless of how it is split later.
> > But, also there isn't a good mapping between the size of the secure
> > discard and how long it will take.  If given the geometry of a flash
> > device, it is not hard to construct a scenario where a relatively
> > small secure discard (few thousand sectors) will take a very long time
> > (multiple seconds).
> >
> > Having said that, I don't like neutering the hung task timer either.
>
> Hi Salman,
>
> How about modifying the block layer such that completions of bio
> fragments are considered as task activity? I think that bio splitting is
> rare enough for such a change not to affect performance of the hot path.

Are you sure that the task hung warning won't be triggered in case of
non-splitting?

>
> How about setting max_discard_segments such that a discard always
> completes in less than half the hung task timeout? This may make
> discards a bit slower for one particular block driver but I think that's
> better than hung task complaints.

I am afraid you can't find a golden setting max_discard_segments working
for every drivers. Even it is found, the performance  may have been affected.

So just wondering why not take the simple approach used in blk_execute_rq()?

Thanks,
Ming Lei

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-14  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-12 22:27 BLKSECDISCARD ioctl and hung tasks Salman Qazi
2020-02-12 23:06 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-02-13  1:20   ` Salman Qazi
2020-02-13  1:24     ` Jesse Barnes
2020-02-13  8:26 ` Ming Lei
2020-02-13 17:48   ` Bart Van Assche
2020-02-13 19:21     ` Salman Qazi
2020-02-13 22:08       ` Salman Qazi
2020-02-14  0:25       ` Ming Lei
2020-02-14  5:49       ` Bart Van Assche
2020-02-14  9:22         ` Ming Lei [this message]
2020-02-14 19:42           ` Salman Qazi
2020-02-15  3:46             ` Ming Lei
2020-02-18 16:11               ` Jesse Barnes
2020-02-19  1:37                 ` Ming Lei
2020-02-19  2:54                 ` Ming Lei
2020-02-19 17:54                   ` Salman Qazi
2020-02-19 22:22                     ` Ming Lei
2020-02-19 22:26                       ` Salman Qazi

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