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From: David Stevens <stevensd@chromium.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Chia-I Wu <olv@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] KVM: mmu: remove over-aggressive warnings
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:42:39 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=HUj736L5oxkzeL2JoPV8g1S6Rugy_TquW=PRt73YmFzP6Jw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YdXvUaBUvaRPsv6m@google.com>

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:19 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2022, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Ah, I got royally confused by ensure_pfn_ref()'s comment
> >
> >   * Certain IO or PFNMAP mappings can be backed with valid
> >   * struct pages, but be allocated without refcounting e.g.,
> >   * tail pages of non-compound higher order allocations, which
> >   * would then underflow the refcount when the caller does the
> >   * required put_page. Don't allow those pages here.
> >                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > that doesn't apply here because kvm_faultin_pfn() uses the low level
> > __gfn_to_pfn_page_memslot().
>
> On fifth thought, I think this is wrong and doomed to fail.  By mapping these pages
> into the guest, KVM is effectively saying it supports these pages.  But if the guest
> uses the corresponding gfns for an action that requires KVM to access the page,
> e.g. via kvm_vcpu_map(), ensure_pfn_ref() will reject the access and all sorts of
> bad things will happen to the guest.
>
> So, why not fully reject these types of pages?  If someone is relying on KVM to
> support these types of pages, then we'll fail fast and get a bug report letting us
> know we need to properly support these types of pages.  And if not, then we reduce
> KVM's complexity and I get to keep my precious WARN :-)

Our current use case here is virtio-gpu blob resources [1]. Blob
resources are useful because they avoid a guest shadow buffer and the
associated memcpys, and as I understand it they are also required for
virtualized vulkan.

One type of blob resources requires mapping dma-bufs allocated by the
host directly into the guest. This works on Intel platforms and the
ARM platforms I've tested. However, the amdgpu driver sometimes
allocates higher order, non-compound pages via ttm_pool_alloc_page.
These are the type of pages which KVM is currently rejecting. Is this
something that KVM can support?

+olv, who has done some of the blob resource work.

[1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/dri-devel/cover/20200814024000.2485-1-gurchetansingh@chromium.org/

-David

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-06  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-29  3:43 [PATCH v5 0/4] KVM: allow mapping non-refcounted pages David Stevens
2021-11-29  3:43 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] KVM: mmu: introduce new gfn_to_pfn_page functions David Stevens
2021-12-30 19:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-29  3:43 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] KVM: x86/mmu: use gfn_to_pfn_page David Stevens
2021-12-30 19:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-29  3:43 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] KVM: arm64/mmu: " David Stevens
2021-12-30 19:45   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-29  3:43 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] KVM: mmu: remove over-aggressive warnings David Stevens
2021-12-30 19:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  7:14     ` David Stevens
2022-01-05 19:02       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05 19:19         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-06  2:42           ` David Stevens [this message]
2022-01-06 17:38             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-07  2:21               ` David Stevens
2022-01-07 16:31                 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-07 16:46                   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-10 23:47                   ` David Stevens

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