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From: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: sjpark@amazon.com, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	shuah@kernel.org, Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	sj38.park@gmail.com, aams@amazon.com,
	SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>,
	Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] tcp: Reduce SYN resend delay if a suspicous ACK is received
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:11:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADVnQy=Z0YRPY_0bxBpsZvECgamigESNKx6_-meNW5-6_N4kww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd146bac-4e8a-4119-2d2b-ce6bf2daf7ce@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:12 PM Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/31/20 7:10 AM, Neal Cardwell wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 7:25 AM <sjpark@amazon.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>
> >>
> >> When closing a connection, the two acks that required to change closing
> >> socket's status to FIN_WAIT_2 and then TIME_WAIT could be processed in
> >> reverse order.  This is possible in RSS disabled environments such as a
> >> connection inside a host.
> >>
> >> For example, expected state transitions and required packets for the
> >> disconnection will be similar to below flow.
> >>
> >>          00 (Process A)                         (Process B)
> >>          01 ESTABLISHED                         ESTABLISHED
> >>          02 close()
> >>          03 FIN_WAIT_1
> >>          04             ---FIN-->
> >>          05                                     CLOSE_WAIT
> >>          06             <--ACK---
> >>          07 FIN_WAIT_2
> >>          08             <--FIN/ACK---
> >>          09 TIME_WAIT
> >>          10             ---ACK-->
> >>          11                                     LAST_ACK
> >>          12 CLOSED                              CLOSED
> >
> > AFAICT this sequence is not quite what would happen, and that it would
> > be different starting in line 8, and would unfold as follows:
> >
> >           08                                     close()
> >           09                                     LAST_ACK
> >           10             <--FIN/ACK---
> >           11 TIME_WAIT
> >           12             ---ACK-->
> >           13 CLOSED                              CLOSED
> >
> >
> >> The acks in lines 6 and 8 are the acks.  If the line 8 packet is
> >> processed before the line 6 packet, it will be just ignored as it is not
> >> a expected packet,
> >
> > AFAICT that is where the bug starts.
> >
> > AFAICT, from first principles, when process A receives the FIN/ACK it
> > should move to TIME_WAIT even if it has not received a preceding ACK.
> > That's because ACKs are cumulative. So receiving a later cumulative
> > ACK conveys all the information in the previous ACKs.
> >
> > Also, consider the de facto standard state transition diagram from
> > "TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 2: The Implementation", by Wright and
> > Stevens, e.g.:
> >
> >   https://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse461/19sp/lectures/TCPIP_State_Transition_Diagram.pdf
> >
> > This first-principles analysis agrees with the Wright/Stevens diagram,
> > which says that a connection in FIN_WAIT_1 that receives a FIN/ACK
> > should move to TIME_WAIT.
> >
> > This seems like a faster and more robust solution than installing
> > special timers.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
>
> This is orthogonal I think.
>
> No matter how hard we fix the other side, we should improve the active side.
>
> Since we send a RST, sending the SYN a few ms after the RST seems way better
> than waiting 1 second as if we received no packet at all.
>
> Receiving this ACK tells us something about networking health, no need
> to be very cautious about the next attempt.

Yes, all good points. Thanks!

> Of course, if you have a fix for the passive side, that would be nice to review !

I looked into fixing this, but my quick reading of the Linux
tcp_rcv_state_process() code is that it should behave correctly and
that a connection in FIN_WAIT_1 that receives a FIN/ACK should move to
TIME_WAIT.

SeongJae, do you happen to have a tcpdump trace of the problematic
sequence where the "process A" ends up in FIN_WAIT_2 when it should be
in TIME_WAIT?

If I have time I will try to construct a packetdrill case to verify
the behavior in this case.

thanks,
neal

>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-31 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-31 12:24 [PATCH 0/3] Fix reconnection latency caused by FIN/ACK handling race sjpark
2020-01-31 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock: Fix inconsistent comments sjpark
2020-01-31 14:54   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 15:09     ` sjpark
2020-01-31 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] tcp: Reduce SYN resend delay if a suspicous ACK is received sjpark
2020-01-31 15:01   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 16:12     ` sjpark
2020-01-31 16:55       ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 17:05         ` sjpark
2020-01-31 17:08           ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 15:10   ` Neal Cardwell
2020-01-31 18:12     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 22:11       ` Neal Cardwell [this message]
2020-01-31 22:17         ` SeongJae Park
2020-02-01  3:55           ` Neal Cardwell
2020-02-01  6:08             ` SeongJae Park
2020-02-01 13:30               ` Neal Cardwell
2020-01-31 22:53         ` Eric Dumazet
2020-02-03 15:40           ` David Laight
2020-02-03 15:54             ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] selftests: net: Add FIN_ACK processing order related latency spike test sjpark
2020-01-31 14:56   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 15:13     ` sjpark
2020-01-31 14:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix reconnection latency caused by FIN/ACK handling race David Laight
2020-01-31 15:05   ` sjpark

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