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From: "Stephen Röttger" <sroettger@google.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: jeffxu@chromium.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] mseal:Check seal flag for mmap(2)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:27:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEAAPHYakbZxf7CYbhGVJ-sGM3KFP3vCMJ9kErbMpi75Ekg20A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whchB_=Qx_oNAg3KBe-erNg9R2p_91ikaRZhsNY_2-G7g@mail.gmail.com>

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> Without that practical reason, I think the only two sane sealing operations are:
>
>  - SEAL_MUNMAP: "don't allow this mapping address to go away"
>
>    IOW no unmap, no shrinking, no moving mremap
>
>  - SEAL_MPROTECT: "don't allow any mapping permission changes"
>
> Again, that permission case might end up being "don't allow
> _additional_ permissions" and "don't allow taking permissions away".
> Or it could be split by operation (ie "don't allow permission changes
> to writability / readability / executability respectively").
>
> I suspect there isn't a real-life example of splitting the
> SEAL_MPROTECT (the same way I doubt there's a real-life example for
> splitting the UNMAP into "unmap vs move"), so unless there is some
> real reason, I'd keep the sealing minimal and to just those two flags.

These two flags are exactly what we would use in Chrome. I can't think of a
use case for a more fine grained split either.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-19  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-17  9:08 [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce mseal() syscall jeffxu
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] mseal: Add mseal(2) syscall jeffxu
2023-10-17 15:45   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/8] mseal: Wire up mseal syscall jeffxu
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] mseal: add can_modify_mm and can_modify_vma jeffxu
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/8] mseal: Check seal flag for mprotect(2) jeffxu
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/8] mseal: Check seal flag for munmap(2) jeffxu
2023-10-17 16:54   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 15:08     ` Jeff Xu
2023-10-18 17:14       ` Jeff Xu
2023-10-18 18:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 19:07           ` Jeff Xu
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/8] mseal: Check seal flag for mremap(2) jeffxu
2023-10-20 13:56   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] mseal:Check seal flag for mmap(2) jeffxu
2023-10-17 17:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-17 17:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18  7:01       ` Jeff Xu
2023-10-19  7:27       ` Stephen Röttger [this message]
2023-10-17  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/8] selftest mm/mseal mprotect/munmap/mremap/mmap jeffxu
2023-10-20 14:24   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-10-20 15:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-20 16:33       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-10-19  9:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce mseal() syscall David Laight

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