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From: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	hch@lst.de, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	Vivek Gautam <vivek.gautam@codeaurora.org>,
	freedreno <freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] drm: msm: Replace dma_map_sg with dma_sync_sg*
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:57:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGsT9RO2RmgBTa0HQRjRUiRKy9N3vQxvD7RVWp4HpnWn+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5A-Bh711VaNWhRJqcrofkBVCMFcNgqfztoyWJcUdhSu0Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:24 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> [CC Marek]
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:09 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 5:57 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Note that one thing I'd like to avoid is exposing these funtions directly
> > > to drivers, as that will get us into all kinds of abuses.
> >
> > What kind of abuse do you expect? It could very well be that gpu folks
> > call that "standard use case" ... At least on x86 with the i915 driver
> > we pretty much rely on architectural guarantees for how cache flushes
> > work very much. Down to userspace doing the cache flushing for
> > mappings the kernel has set up.
>
> i915 is a very specific case of a fully contained,
> architecture-specific hardware subsystem, where you can just hardcode
> all integration details inside the driver, because nobody else would
> care.
>
> In ARM world, you can have the same IP blocks licensed by multiple SoC
> vendors with different integration details and that often includes the
> option of coherency.

fwiw, I believe all the GPU IP blocks that are used across multiple
SoCs have their own GPU MMU (potentially in addition to an iommu?).
So the dma-api is a much better fit for them..  drm/msm is a lot
closer to drm/i915 scenario, so I don't so much care if the solution
to our unique problem isn't something that would work for other
drivers ;-)

BR,
-R

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-29 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-29 14:03 [PATCH v3 1/1] drm: msm: Replace dma_map_sg with dma_sync_sg* Vivek Gautam
2018-11-29 14:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 14:25   ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 14:42     ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 15:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:48         ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 19:40           ` Jordan Crouse
2018-11-29 19:57             ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-29 20:03               ` Robin Murphy
2018-11-30  0:23                 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-01  2:05                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-01 11:46                     ` Rob Clark
2018-12-03  0:12                       ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-29 14:43     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-29 15:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 16:28         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-29 16:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 17:09             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-29 17:24               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-29 18:35                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:57                 ` Rob Clark [this message]
2018-11-30  9:40                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-30  9:35                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-30  9:44                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:33               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30  9:46                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-12-07  1:38                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-07 14:29                     ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 17:33             ` Brian Starkey
2018-11-29 18:35               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30  1:15         ` Rob Clark
2018-11-30  9:35           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 15:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:44       ` Rob Clark

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