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From: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	ebiggers@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 00/23] WireGuard: Secure Network Tunnel
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 08:43:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFLxGvz3tR4Fy95Zu+-gRfk19HDd_N54QLftisdJJewPWbL3xA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu8fr_qADiTJH05nVWF7Yi3U722nfKJsMaRE9CP3YjNBbg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:04 AM Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On 2 October 2018 at 05:45, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> > Hi Herbert,
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:39 AM Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
> >> > I would also strongly prefer that all crypto work is taken through
> >> > Herbert's tree, so we have a coherent view of it before it goes
> >> > upstream.
> >>
> >> I agree.  I don't have any problems with the zinc code living in
> >> its own git tree.  But any upstream merges should definitely go
> >> through the crypto tree because the inherent ties between the two
> >> code-base.
> >
> > I can send you pull requests then if there are development cycles when
> > there are in fact relations between the two trees. I'll update the
> > commit message describing Zinc to include this.
> >
>
> Can you explain why you it is so important to you that your changes
> remain outside the crypto tree?
>
> Also, I still think the name Zinc (zinc is not crypto/) is needlessly
> divisive and condescending, and unsaying it (in v2 and up) doesn't
> really work on the Internet (especially since you are still repeating
> it in your conference talk.)

I've been following the drama^Wdiscussion on the zinc for a long time now
and I also think that "zinc" is a misleading name.
Jason, you seem to hate the existing crypto framework with passion,
and the name reflects that.
Since we all agree that the framework can do better and your patches actually
make it better, please just rename it to something that reflects what
it is, a base
framework. I think Ard already suggested "crypto/base/" or "crypto/core/".

-- 
Thanks,
//richard

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-02  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-25 14:55 [PATCH net-next v6 00/23] WireGuard: Secure Network Tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 01/23] asm: simd context helper API Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  8:28   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28  8:49     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:47       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 13:52         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:59           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 14:00             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 14:01               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-30  4:20                 ` Joe Perches
2018-09-30  5:35                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-01  1:43                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  7:18                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:45     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 02/23] zinc: introduce minimal cryptography library Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 18:33   ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 19:43     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 20:00       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-25 20:02         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 20:05       ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 20:12         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 20:21           ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 20:54             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 21:02               ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 21:03                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 03/23] zinc: ChaCha20 generic C implementation and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:40   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  1:53     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:15   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:18     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 04/23] zinc: ChaCha20 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:47   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  2:01     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-29  7:56       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-09-29  8:00         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  8:11           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-09-29  8:27             ` Abel Vesa
2018-10-02  1:09         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  1:07     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:18   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:20     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 05/23] zinc: import Andy Polyakov's ChaCha20 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:49   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 15:51     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 15:57     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 06/23] zinc: port " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 07/23] zinc: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26  8:59   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 13:32     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 14:02       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 15:41         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 16:54           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 17:07             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 17:37           ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-26 17:46             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 15:41         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 15:45           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 15:49             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 15:51               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 15:58                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27  0:04                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 13:26                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 15:19                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 16:26                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-27 17:06                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 16:21         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-26 17:03           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 17:08             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 17:23             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-26 14:36       ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-26 15:25         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 16:01   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  2:20     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-29  6:16       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-30  2:33         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 08/23] zinc: ChaCha20 MIPS32r2 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 09/23] zinc: Poly1305 generic C implementations and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 10/23] zinc: Poly1305 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 11/23] zinc: import Andy Polyakov's Poly1305 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  6:12   ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-03  7:58     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:08       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03 14:45         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 12/23] zinc: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 13/23] zinc: Poly1305 MIPS32r2 and MIPS64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 14/23] zinc: ChaCha20Poly1305 construction and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 15/23] zinc: BLAKE2s generic C implementation " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 16/23] zinc: BLAKE2s x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 17/23] zinc: Curve25519 generic C implementations and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 18:38   ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 18/23] zinc: Curve25519 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 19/23] zinc: Curve25519 ARM implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02 16:59   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-02 21:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-03  1:03     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-05 15:05       ` D. J. Bernstein
2018-10-05 15:16         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-05 18:40         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  3:10     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 20/23] crypto: port Poly1305 to Zinc Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 21/23] crypto: port ChaCha20 " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:26   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:31     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  5:56   ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-03 14:01     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 22/23] security/keys: rewrite big_key crypto to use Zinc Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 23/23] net: WireGuard secure network tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 16:00   ` Ivan Labáth
2018-09-26 16:04     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-11-05 13:06       ` Ivan Labáth
2018-11-12 23:53         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-11-13  0:10           ` Dave Taht
2018-11-13  0:13             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27  1:15   ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-27 22:37     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  1:09       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:01       ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-28 15:04         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03 11:15   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:12     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03 14:13       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:25         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:28           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 18:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 00/23] WireGuard: Secure Network Tunnel Eric Biggers
2018-09-27 21:35   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  1:17     ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-28  2:35       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  4:55         ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-28  5:46           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  7:52             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:40               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:39               ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:45                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:49                   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  6:04                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-02  6:43                     ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2018-10-02 12:22                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  6:49                       ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-05 13:13                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-05 13:37                           ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-05 13:46                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-05 13:53                               ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-05 17:50                             ` David Miller
2018-09-28 17:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  2:40               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-29  5:35                 ` Willy Tarreau

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