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From: Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>,
	Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net>,
	"Theodore T'so" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] kdbus: add documentation
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:26:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG-2HqUCZjc4Ucc-L21uG6e-di4UcLJAT5mW_-5-c-uqmoJyzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54C65267.7090905@gmail.com>

Hi Michael,

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
<mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2. Is the API to be invoked directly by applications or is intended to
>    be used only behind specific libraries? You seem to be saying that
>    the latter is the case (here, I'm referring to your comment above
>    about sd-bus). However, when I asked David Herrmann a similar
>    question I got this responser:
>
>       "kdbus is in no way bound to systemd. There are ongoing efforts
>        to port glib and qt to kdbus natively. The API is pretty simple
>        and I don't see how a libkdbus would simplify things. In fact,
>        even our tests only have slim wrappers around the ioctls to
>        simplify error-handling in test-scenarios."
>
>    To me, that implies that users will employ the raw kernel API.

The way I read this is that there will (probably) be a handful of
users, namely the existing dbus libraries: libdus, sd-bus, glib, Qt,
ell, and maybe a few others. However, third-party developers will not
know/care about the details of kdbus, they'll just be coding against
the dbus libraries as before (might be minor changes, but they
certainly won't need to know anything about the kernel API). Similarly
to how userspace developers now code against their libc of choice,
rather than use kernel syscalls directly.

HTH,

Tom

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-26 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-16 19:16 [PATCH v3 00/13] Add kdbus implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 01/13] kdbus: add documentation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-20 13:53   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-20 14:31     ` David Herrmann
2015-01-20 14:42       ` Josh Boyer
2015-01-20 14:53         ` Djalal Harouni
2015-01-20 16:08           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-20 17:00             ` David Herrmann
2015-01-20 22:00               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-21 10:28       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-20 18:23     ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-21 10:32       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-21 15:19         ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-01-21 16:58         ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-22 10:18           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-22 13:46             ` David Herrmann
2015-01-22 14:49               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-01-23 16:08                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-26 14:46                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-27 15:05                     ` David Herrmann
2015-01-27 16:03                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-29  8:53                         ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-29 11:25                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-29 11:42                             ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-29 12:09                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-02  9:34                                 ` Daniel Mack
2015-02-02 20:12                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-03 10:09                                     ` Daniel Mack
2015-02-04  0:41                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-04  2:47                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-04  3:14                                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-02-04  6:30                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-04 23:03                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-05  0:16                                         ` David Herrmann
2015-02-08 16:54                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-27 18:03                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-23 11:47               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-23 15:54             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-26 14:42               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-26 15:26                 ` Tom Gundersen [this message]
2015-01-26 16:44                   ` christoph Hellwig
2015-01-26 16:45                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-27 15:23                     ` David Herrmann
2015-01-27 17:53                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-27 18:14                         ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-28 10:46                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-20 13:58   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-20 17:50     ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-21  8:57       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-21  9:07         ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-21  9:07     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-21  9:12       ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-23  6:28   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2015-01-23 13:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-23 13:29       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-25  3:30       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 02/13] kdbus: add header file Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 03/13] kdbus: add driver skeleton, ioctl entry points and utility functions Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 04/13] kdbus: add connection pool implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 05/13] kdbus: add connection, queue handling and message validation code Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 06/13] kdbus: add node and filesystem implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 07/13] kdbus: add code to gather metadata Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 08/13] kdbus: add code for notifications and matches Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 09/13] kdbus: add code for buses, domains and endpoints Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 10/13] kdbus: add name registry implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 11/13] kdbus: add policy database implementation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 12/13] kdbus: add Makefile, Kconfig and MAINTAINERS entry Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 19:16 ` [PATCH 13/13] kdbus: add selftests Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-16 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] Add kdbus implementation Josh Boyer
2015-01-16 22:18   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-17  0:26     ` Daniel Mack
2015-01-17  0:41       ` Josh Boyer
2015-01-19 18:06 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-19 18:38   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-19 20:19     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-19 20:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-19 23:38         ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-20  1:13           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-20 10:57             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-20 11:26               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-01-20 13:24                 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-20 14:12                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-26 21:32             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-19 18:33 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-01-20 14:05 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-20 14:15 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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