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From: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
To: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jisheng Zhang <Jisheng.Zhang@synaptics.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Linux Samsung SOC <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:08:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGETcx-w5+uMB9vWzVgGdcYqTBFfXDzwFWuoL4x0M8S3DZY32g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3db354fb-28e8-78c7-cf73-a9042228d50b@samsung.com>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:36 PM Marek Szyprowski
<m.szyprowski@samsung.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Saravana,
>
> On 13.01.2021 20:23, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:04 PM Marek Szyprowski
> > <m.szyprowski@samsung.com> wrote:
> >> On 12.01.2021 21:51, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:11 PM Marek Szyprowski
> >>> <m.szyprowski@samsung.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 11.01.2021 22:47, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 6:18 AM Marek Szyprowski
> >>>>> <m.szyprowski@samsung.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 11.01.2021 12:12, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 18.12.2020 04:17, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Cyclic dependencies in some firmware was one of the last remaining
> >>>>>>>> reasons fw_devlink=on couldn't be set by default. Now that cyclic
> >>>>>>>> dependencies don't block probing, set fw_devlink=on by default.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Setting fw_devlink=on by default brings a bunch of benefits (currently,
> >>>>>>>> only for systems with device tree firmware):
> >>>>>>>> * Significantly cuts down deferred probes.
> >>>>>>>> * Device probe is effectively attempted in graph order.
> >>>>>>>> * Makes it much easier to load drivers as modules without having to
> >>>>>>>>       worry about functional dependencies between modules (depmod is still
> >>>>>>>>       needed for symbol dependencies).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If this patch prevents some devices from probing, it's very likely due
> >>>>>>>> to the system having one or more device drivers that "probe"/set up a
> >>>>>>>> device (DT node with compatible property) without creating a struct
> >>>>>>>> device for it.  If we hit such cases, the device drivers need to be
> >>>>>>>> fixed so that they populate struct devices and probe them like normal
> >>>>>>>> device drivers so that the driver core is aware of the devices and their
> >>>>>>>> status. See [1] for an example of such a case.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [1] -
> >>>>>>>> https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=68f5d8ba-376ee1f5-68f453f5-0cc47a30d446-324e64700545ab93&q=1&e=fb455b9e-c8c7-40d0-8e3c-d9d3713d519b&u=https%3A%2F%2Flore.kernel.org%2Flkml%2FCAGETcx9PiX%3D%3DmLxB9PO8Myyk6u2vhPVwTMsA5NkD-ywH5xhusw%40mail.gmail.com%2F
> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
> >>>>>>> This patch landed recently in linux next-20210111 as commit
> >>>>>>> e590474768f1 ("driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default"). Sadly it
> >>>>>>> breaks Exynos IOMMU operation, what causes lots of devices being
> >>>>>>> deferred and not probed at all. I've briefly checked and noticed that
> >>>>>>> exynos_sysmmu_probe() is never called after this patch. This is really
> >>>>>>> strange for me, as the SYSMMU controllers on Exynos platform are
> >>>>>>> regular platform devices registered by the OF code. The driver code is
> >>>>>>> here: drivers/iommu/exynos-iommu.c, example dts:
> >>>>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/exynos3250.dtsi (compatible = "samsung,exynos-sysmmu").
> >>>>>> Okay, I found the source of this problem. It is caused by Exynos power
> >>>>>> domain driver, which is not platform driver yet. I will post a patch,
> >>>>>> which converts it to the platform driver.
> >>>>> Thanks Marek! Hopefully the debug logs I added were sufficient to
> >>>>> figure out the reason.
> >>>> Frankly, it took me a while to figure out that device core waits for the
> >>>> power domain devices. Maybe it would be possible to add some more debug
> >>>> messages or hints? Like the reason of the deferred probe in
> >>>> /sys/kernel/debug/devices_deferred ?
> >>> There's already a /sys/devices/.../<device>/waiting_for_supplier file
> >>> that tells you if the device is waiting for a supplier device to be
> >>> added. That file goes away once the device probes. If the file has 1,
> >>> then it's waiting for the supplier device to be added (like your
> >>> case). If it's 0, then the device is just waiting on one of the
> >>> existing suppliers to probe. You can find the existing suppliers
> >>> through /sys/devices/.../<device>/supplier:*/supplier. Also, flip
> >>> these dev_dbg() to dev_info() if you need more details about deferred
> >>> probing.
> >> Frankly speaking I doubt that anyone will find those. Even experienced
> >> developer might need some time to figure it out.
> >>
> >> I expect that such information will be at least in the mentioned
> >> /sys/kernel/debug/devices_deferred file. We already have infrastructure
> >> for putting the deferred probe reason there, see dev_err_probe()
> >> function. Even such a simple change makes the debugging this issue much
> >> easier:
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/base/core.c b/drivers/base/core.c
> >> index cd8e518fadd6..ceb5aed5a84c 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/base/core.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/base/core.c
> >> @@ -937,12 +937,13 @@ int device_links_check_suppliers(struct device *dev)
> >>           mutex_lock(&fwnode_link_lock);
> >>           if (dev->fwnode && !list_empty(&dev->fwnode->suppliers) &&
> >>               !fw_devlink_is_permissive()) {
> >> -               dev_dbg(dev, "probe deferral - wait for supplier %pfwP\n",
> >> +               ret = dev_err_probe(dev, -EPROBE_DEFER,
> >> +                       "probe deferral - wait for supplier %pfwP\n",
> >> list_first_entry(&dev->fwnode->suppliers,
> >>                           struct fwnode_link,
> >>                           c_hook)->supplier);
> >>                   mutex_unlock(&fwnode_link_lock);
> >> -               return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> >> +               return ret;
> >>           }
> >>           mutex_unlock(&fwnode_link_lock);
> >>
> >> @@ -955,9 +956,9 @@ int device_links_check_suppliers(struct device *dev)
> >>                   if (link->status != DL_STATE_AVAILABLE &&
> >>                       !(link->flags & DL_FLAG_SYNC_STATE_ONLY)) {
> >>                           device_links_missing_supplier(dev);
> >> -                       dev_dbg(dev, "probe deferral - supplier %s not
> >> ready\n",
> >> +                       ret = dev_err_probe(dev, -EPROBE_DEFER,
> >> +                               "probe deferral - supplier %s not ready\n",
> >>                                   dev_name(link->supplier));
> >> -                       ret = -EPROBE_DEFER;
> >>                           break;
> >>                   }
> >>                   WRITE_ONCE(link->status, DL_STATE_CONSUMER_PROBE);
> >>
> >>
> >> After such change:
> >>
> >> # cat /sys/kernet/debug/devices_deferred
> > Sweet! I wasn't aware of this file at all.
> >
> > However, on a side note, one of my TODO items is to not add devices to
> > the deferred probe list if they'll never probe yet (due to suppliers
> > not having probed). On a board I tested on, it cut down really_probe()
> > calls by 75%! So the probe attempt itself effectively happens in graph
> > order (which I think is pretty cool). So that's going to conflict with
> > this file. I'll have to see what to do about that.
> >
> > Thanks for this pointer. Let me sit on this for 2 weeks and see how I
> > can incorporate your suggestion while allowing for the above. And then
> > I'll send out a patch. Does that work?
>
> Fine for me.
>
> Even if you want to change the core not to probe devices that miss their
> suppliers (what's good imho), the 'devices_deferred' file might still
> contain all of them. For user it is just a list of devices that are not
> yet available in the system with the optional reasons for that.

Right, I understood that :) My point was that I'm assuming the debugfs
file loops through the deferred devices list. But with my
optimization, it won't find all the devices. So, we might need YET
another list. :-(

-Saravana

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-14 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-18  3:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] driver core: Add debug logs for device link related probe deferrals Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] driver core: Add device link support for INFERRED flag Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] driver core: Have fw_devlink use DL_FLAG_INFERRED Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  6:39   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:39   ` [RFC PATCH] driver core: fw_devlink_relax_cycle() can be static kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:48   ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink kernel test robot
2020-12-18  7:12   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210111111245eucas1p15acde7ecc2ca7f7782beb8ed74c72022@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 11:12     ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]       ` <CGME20210111141814eucas1p1f388df07b789693a999042b27f0d8c2a@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 14:18         ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-11 21:47           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-12  7:11             ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-12 20:51               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13  7:04                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-13 19:23                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14  7:36                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-14 18:08                       ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2021-01-18 17:43                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-17 23:01   ` Michael Walle
2021-01-18 21:01     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 10:41       ` Michael Walle
2021-01-20  0:00         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-18 17:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 17:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-18 19:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 19:30         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-18 21:18         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19  9:05           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-19 18:08             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 21:50               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-20  9:40                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 14:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 17:22                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 16:04                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-25 23:30                         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-26  8:25                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20  9:11               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-21  8:22   ` [TEST PATCH v1] driver: core: Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21  8:27     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-22  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:33     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-25 17:05   ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-25 18:16     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-28 10:59       ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-28 17:04         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10  5:54   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10  8:20     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 15:10       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10 20:52         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 21:21           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  2:39             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-17  3:05               ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  3:13                 ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18 21:11 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable " Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  8:18 ` Jisheng Zhang
     [not found]   ` <CAHp75VfqL1QuvjCZ7p23e_2qhY3DUgVNaS--Uk1mEoEHsD8GBA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-14 16:49     ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-07 20:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-01-07 21:53   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:11   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 15:27     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:29       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 11:34         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:40           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:47             ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:52               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 18:55                 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 21:50                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-15 16:12                     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-15 17:44                       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 20:56     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:30 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:26   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:11     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:47       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:56         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 15:03           ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 17:27             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11  0:02             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 15:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-02-11 17:14                 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 17:48                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-02-12  3:04                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:44 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-01-13 11:48   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 21:27     ` Saravana Kannan

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