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From: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jisheng Zhang <Jisheng.Zhang@synaptics.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 13:50:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGETcx_dVCsLObf_APFur6jNiS_7+ymXEjDx4Sy-tBoMCSx71w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGETcx-ax00kGq=u_XCaQ0phgc_iCqtqD7k2aiQ1qSLFmrQG=g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 10:08 AM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 1:05 AM Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Saravana,
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:19 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:16 AM Geert Uytterhoeven
> > > <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 6:59 PM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-01-18 17:39, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:34 AM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Cyclic dependencies in some firmware was one of the last remaining
> > > > > >> reasons fw_devlink=on couldn't be set by default. Now that cyclic
> > > > > >> dependencies don't block probing, set fw_devlink=on by default.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Setting fw_devlink=on by default brings a bunch of benefits
> > > > > >> (currently,
> > > > > >> only for systems with device tree firmware):
> > > > > >> * Significantly cuts down deferred probes.
> > > > > >> * Device probe is effectively attempted in graph order.
> > > > > >> * Makes it much easier to load drivers as modules without having to
> > > > > >>   worry about functional dependencies between modules (depmod is still
> > > > > >>   needed for symbol dependencies).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If this patch prevents some devices from probing, it's very likely due
> > > > > >> to the system having one or more device drivers that "probe"/set up a
> > > > > >> device (DT node with compatible property) without creating a struct
> > > > > >> device for it.  If we hit such cases, the device drivers need to be
> > > > > >> fixed so that they populate struct devices and probe them like normal
> > > > > >> device drivers so that the driver core is aware of the devices and
> > > > > >> their
> > > > > >> status. See [1] for an example of such a case.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1] -
> > > > > >> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAGETcx9PiX==mLxB9PO8Myyk6u2vhPVwTMsA5NkD-ywH5xhusw@mail.gmail.com/
> > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shimoda-san reported that next-20210111 and later fail to boot
> > > > > > on Renesas R-Car Gen3 platforms. No output is seen, unless earlycon
> > > > > > is enabled.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have bisected this to commit e590474768f1cc04 ("driver core: Set
> > > > > > fw_devlink=on by default").
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a tentative patch from Saravana here[1], which works around
> > > > > some issues on my RK3399 platform, and it'd be interesting to find
> > > > > out whether that helps on your system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >          M.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20210116011412.3211292-1-saravanak@google.com
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but given no devices probe (incl. GPIO
> > > > providers), I'm afraid it won't help. [testing] Indeed.
> > > >
> > > > With the debug prints in device_links_check_suppliers enabled, and
> > > > some postprocessing, I get:
> > > >
> > > >     255 supplier e6180000.system-controller not ready
> > > >       9 supplier fe990000.iommu not ready
> > > >       9 supplier fe980000.iommu not ready
> > > >       6 supplier febd0000.iommu not ready
> > > >       6 supplier ec670000.iommu not ready
> > > >       3 supplier febe0000.iommu not ready
> > > >       3 supplier e7740000.iommu not ready
> > > >       3 supplier e6740000.iommu not ready
> > > >       3 supplier e65ee000.usb-phy not ready
> > > >       3 supplier e6570000.iommu not ready
> > > >       3 supplier e6054000.gpio not ready
> > > >       3 supplier e6053000.gpio not ready
> > > >
> > > > As everything is part of a PM Domain, the (lack of the) system controller
> > > > must be the culprit. What's wrong with it? It is registered very early in
> > > > the boot:
> > > >
> > > > [    0.142096] rcar_sysc_pd_init:442: of_genpd_add_provider_onecell() returned 0
> >
> > > Looks like you found the important logs. Can you please enable all
> > > these logs and send the early con logs as an attachment (so I don't
> > > need to deal with lines getting wrapped)?
> > > 1. The ones in device_links_check_suppliers()
> > > 2. The ones in device_link_add()
> > > 3. initcall_debug=1
> >
> > I have attached[*] the requested log.
> >
> > > That should help us figure out what's going on. Also, what's the DT
> > > that corresponds to one of the boards that see this issue?
> >
> > arch/arm64/boot/dts/renesas/r8a77951-salvator-xs.dts
> >
> > > Lastly, can you please pick up these 3 patches (some need clean up
> > > before they merge) to make sure it's not an issue being worked on from
> > > other bug reports?
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210116011412.3211292-1-saravanak@google.com/
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210115210159.3090203-1-saravanak@google.com/
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201218210750.3455872-1-saravanak@google.com/
> > >
> > > I have a strong hunch the 2nd one will fix your issues. fw_devlink can
> > > handle cyclic dependencies now (it basically reverts to
> > > fw_devlink=permissive mode for devices in the cycle), but it needs to
> > > "see" all the dependencies to know there's a cycle. So want to make
> > > sure it "sees" the "gpios" binding used all over some of the Renesas
> > > DT files.
> >
> > These patches don't help.
> > The 2nd one actually introduces a new failure:
> >
> >      OF: /soc/i2c@e66d8000/gpio@20/pcie-sata-switch-hog: could not get
> > #gpio-cells for /cpus/cpu@102
> >
> > Note that my issues don't seem to be GPIO-related at all.
> >
> > BTW, you are aware IOMMUs and DMA controllers are optional?
> > I.e. device drivers with iommus and/or dmas DT properties where the
> > targets of these properties do not have a driver should still be probed,
> > eventually.  But if the IOMMU or DMA drivers are present, they should be
> > probed first, so the device drivers can make use of them.
>
> Thanks for the logs and details.
>
> Yeah, this is going to be a problem then. How is this handled in
> static kernels today? Do we just try to make sure the iommus driver
> probes the iommu device before the consumers? And then the consumers
> simply don't defer probe on failure to get iommu?
>
> I can make this work if modules are not enabled (needs some code
> changes), but it's not going to work when there are modules. There's
> no way to tell if an iommu module won't be loaded soon. Also, device
> links doing this behavior only for iommu/dma is probably not a good
> idea. So, whatever we do will have to be common behavior. :(
>
> Another intermediate option I was thinking was having a
> CONFIG_FW_DEVLINK_OFF/PERMISSIVE/ON and defaulting it to ON for ARM64
> and turning it off in the defconfig for boards for which this doesn't
> work. That way, we can incrementally enable fw_devlink.
>
> This week is a very hectic week for me. So, please bear with slow
> responses from me for rest of this week. Let me think about this a bit
> to see if I can come up with a better solution than what I have in
> mind.
>
> Also, can you try deleting "iommu" and "dma" parsing in
> of_supplier_bindings[] in driver/of/property.c and see if it helps?
> Then we'd know this is the reason for things not working in your case.

Hi Geert,

I took a look at your logs. It looks like your guess is right. It's at
least one of the issues.

You'll need to convert drivers/soc/renesas/rcar-sysc.c into a platform
driver. You already have a platform device created for it. So just go
ahead and probe it with a platform driver. See what Marek did here
[1].

You probably had to implement it as an "initcall based driver"
because you had to play initcall chicken to make sure the PD hardware
was initialized before the consumers. With fw_devlink=on you won't
have to worry about that. As an added benefit of implementing a proper
platform driver, you can  actually implement runtime PM now, your
suspend/resume would be more robust, etc.

[1] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210113110320.13149-1-m.szyprowski@samsung.com/

-Saravana

>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > [*] Although attaching means people like myself cannot read and comment
> >     on the log easily, without saving the attachment first.
> >     That's also the reason why patches should be submitted inline...
>
> Yeah, I see your concern. If you want to add comments to logs when
> sending them, yeah, please go ahead and put it inline. Or if someone
> wants to add comments to what you attached, they could copy paste the
> relevant sections and add comments.
>
> Thanks,
> Saravana

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-19 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-18  3:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] driver core: Add debug logs for device link related probe deferrals Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] driver core: Add device link support for INFERRED flag Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] driver core: Have fw_devlink use DL_FLAG_INFERRED Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  6:39   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:39   ` [RFC PATCH] driver core: fw_devlink_relax_cycle() can be static kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:48   ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink kernel test robot
2020-12-18  7:12   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210111111245eucas1p15acde7ecc2ca7f7782beb8ed74c72022@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 11:12     ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]       ` <CGME20210111141814eucas1p1f388df07b789693a999042b27f0d8c2a@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 14:18         ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-11 21:47           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-12  7:11             ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-12 20:51               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13  7:04                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-13 19:23                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14  7:36                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-14 18:08                       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-18 17:43                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-17 23:01   ` Michael Walle
2021-01-18 21:01     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 10:41       ` Michael Walle
2021-01-20  0:00         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-18 17:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 17:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-18 19:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 19:30         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-18 21:18         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19  9:05           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-19 18:08             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 21:50               ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2021-01-20  9:40                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 14:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 17:22                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 16:04                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-25 23:30                         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-26  8:25                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20  9:11               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-21  8:22   ` [TEST PATCH v1] driver: core: Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21  8:27     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-22  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:33     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-25 17:05   ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-25 18:16     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-28 10:59       ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-28 17:04         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10  5:54   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10  8:20     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 15:10       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10 20:52         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 21:21           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  2:39             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-17  3:05               ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  3:13                 ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18 21:11 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable " Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  8:18 ` Jisheng Zhang
     [not found]   ` <CAHp75VfqL1QuvjCZ7p23e_2qhY3DUgVNaS--Uk1mEoEHsD8GBA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-14 16:49     ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-07 20:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-01-07 21:53   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:11   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 15:27     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:29       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 11:34         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:40           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:47             ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:52               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 18:55                 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 21:50                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-15 16:12                     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-15 17:44                       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 20:56     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:30 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:26   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:11     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:47       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:56         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 15:03           ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 17:27             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11  0:02             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 15:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-02-11 17:14                 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 17:48                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-02-12  3:04                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:44 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-01-13 11:48   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 21:27     ` Saravana Kannan

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