From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, Josh Hunt <johunt@akamai.com>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
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David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>,
Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sysctl: detect overflows when converting to int
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:41:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5j+MVekAqaOm4MmrH97uOtEnsmE4zzvptjuhxhmY-86vag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <551C2B86.6080204@gmx.de>
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 01.04.2015 00:45, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 21:28:29 +0200 Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>>> When converting unsigned long to int overflows may occur.
>>> These currently are not detected when writing to the sysctl
>>> file system.
>>>
>>> E.g. on a system where int has 32 bits and long has 64 bits
>>> echo 0x800001234 > /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max
>>> has the same effect as
>>> echo 0x1234 > /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max
>>>
>>> The patch adds the missing check in do_proc_dointvec_conv.
>>>
>>> With the patch an overflow will result in an error EINVAL when
>>> writing to the the sysctl file system.
>>
>> hm, why fix this? There's a small risk of breaking
>> accidentally-working userspace, but I expect we can live with that.
>>
>> But how big a problem is this, really? This behaviour is quite
>> expected, after all.
>>
>
> The typical user of a Linux system has never read the Kernel code and
> possibly has limited programming experience.
> Furthermore in Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt there is no hint that
> only 32-bit integers can be used.
> So why should this typical user expect that on a 64-bit system
> +3000000000 is considered a negative number?
>
> Now that we know this is a bug why shouldn't we fix it?
I think this is worth fixing. It is, from a certain perspective,
"unexpected behavior". At the very least we could tie it to the
sysctl_writes_strict flag? Anything depending on an overflow to get
"correct" results seems extremely unlikely to me.
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-08 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-29 19:28 [PATCH 0/3] sysctl: detect overflows when setting integers Heinrich Schuchardt
2015-03-29 19:28 ` [PATCH 1/3] lib/kstrtox.c: functions returning end of string Heinrich Schuchardt
2015-03-29 19:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysctl: detect overflows in proc_get_long Heinrich Schuchardt
2015-03-29 19:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] sysctl: detect overflows when converting to int Heinrich Schuchardt
2015-03-31 17:12 ` Fwd: " Heinrich Schuchardt
2015-03-31 22:45 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-01 17:31 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2015-06-08 22:41 ` Kees Cook [this message]
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