From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932251Ab3BHUOF (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:14:05 -0500 Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com ([209.85.219.52]:38499 "EHLO mail-oa0-f52.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932068Ab3BHUOD (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:14:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5115553A.5000708@zytor.com> References: <20130208191213.GA25081@www.outflux.net> <00780235-deac-4f80-b936-867834e05661@email.android.com> <5115553A.5000708@zytor.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:14:02 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HZrmJKVKjnPvRpJTiQ_izma5sj4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Lock down MSR writing in secure boot From: Kees Cook To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: LKML , Matthew Garrett , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "x86@kernel.org" , "linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" , linux-security-module Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 02/08/2013 11:18 AM, Kees Cook wrote: >> >> No. CAP_RAWIO is for reading. Writing needs a much stronger check. > > If so, I suspect we need to do this for *all* raw I/O... but I keep > wondering how much more sensitive writing really is than reading. Well, I think there's a reasonable distinction between systems that expect to strictly enforce user-space/kernel-space separation (CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL) and things that are fiddling with hardware (CAP_SYS_RAWIO). For example, even things like /dev/mem already have this separation (although it is stronger). You can't open /dev/mem without CAP_SYS_RAWIO, but if you do, you still can't write to RAM in /dev/mem. This might be one of the earliest examples of this distinction, actually. I think it's likely that after a while, we can convert some of these proposed CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL checks in always-deny once we figure out how to deal with those areas more safely. -Kees -- Kees Cook Chrome OS Security