From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5643DC04AA5 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D630208D9 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=chromium.org header.i=@chromium.org header.b="dbHWiMN2" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 0D630208D9 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=chromium.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726987AbeJPEtX (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Oct 2018 00:49:23 -0400 Received: from mail-yw1-f68.google.com ([209.85.161.68]:36047 "EHLO mail-yw1-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726024AbeJPEtX (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Oct 2018 00:49:23 -0400 Received: by mail-yw1-f68.google.com with SMTP id e201-v6so8080027ywa.3 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:02:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chromium.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6faCqweIkuTWy5VU4l9YjjoSOf4LuGQCWjJ4IVAY5yw=; b=dbHWiMN2/YHcsez8K5Rce/ADXqav0rxd7GAEoYm9LL7gNmDAy78x+abikITBntL6ax u1wuyyaUYtZRLCBomsP9eS3lhLtpnInQhr35XQZ+DfvaIjSGUzi6UTbfueJIKFTd7KzQ auVQxipT5x5JTLIg085cEJoR6CBb4Jl/0L33M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6faCqweIkuTWy5VU4l9YjjoSOf4LuGQCWjJ4IVAY5yw=; b=QINo6rmtbigCh0zr43/5AX/NQbQxvxRNMkz6L2mtJgZmT2rspBXaUGFsd0q1y0NZ+U MA0AVJ+oruVPX9SNOnK9VhrtbIfYSyzwx7gCeZJZhMMUlpENsFCWQEL6p2mrxPHms7RA ZiOQZfv/iCZr8rrk2bPNiY+w5Z0lVgwn46JAnMx3X3Tggw/BODD4N02q06XN6N73GdKc hKDL8SWC9vyj6XBMcWOQRRcOTpswxh2GYkzrn97J8zVIl06qRcreU1fwkwcBXZ3vEjMX +t+rfXwRZWULlFUXujRn4/cd1fu2YjO5Y9QGgcW7rtIDAeVSgrNfWoiXCK6SaUHzh21i ++vw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoh1SUnujEhwxbCYpev2NHAQABvfGdrtXZSWxGq3YsEvRdX5rxJ5 LUp88cUY7LuyEsTvSjZ3oi5kK+ZSurg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62S5ewm/cRMOfEQlRKH6TN82YHt18RMskDxyp2XZjK0If+PGBzH5nZXuMg2rpiF7FqoYGuKUQ== X-Received: by 2002:a81:4a55:: with SMTP id x82-v6mr10387315ywa.3.1539637345819; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw1-f45.google.com (mail-yw1-f45.google.com. [209.85.161.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j8-v6sm3202589ywa.17.2018.10.15.14.02.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f45.google.com with SMTP id j75-v6so8070168ywj.10 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a81:98cb:: with SMTP id p194-v6mr10273753ywg.353.1539637344226; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:d116:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:02:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F7D40E4F6@ORSMSX107.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <1539202053.12644.8.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1539202180.12644.10.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F7D40E4F6@ORSMSX107.amr.corp.intel.com> From: Kees Cook Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:02:23 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 2/3] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion To: "Luck, Tony" Cc: James Bottomley , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , linux-kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Luck, Tony wrote: >> the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern >> that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel > > Is there some logic behind that concern? What's magic about the release > of 4.19? Greg KH said 4.19 was going to be the next LTS. But, regardless, if we view bugs in the CoC as "just bugs", then can't we also include their fixes in -stable? It'll land in 4.19.z just like anything else. I don't think we need to rush anything into 4.19 -- as so many others have said: it's in our best interest to take the time to get the CoC right. -Kees -- Kees Cook Pixel Security