From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Lock down MSR writing in secure boot
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:02:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jKo2PfMBO4A0ZgQcrPuj8OHNaff+CjAesOAWkZc0vB9+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1360355671.18083.18.camel@x230.lan>
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Matthew Garrett
<matthew.garrett@nebula.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 12:28 -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>
>> Maybe a capability isn't the right way to go, I'm not sure. I'll leave
>> that to Matthew. Whatever the flag, it should be an immutable state of
>> the boot. Though, it probably makes sense as a cap just so that
>> non-secure-boot systems can still remove it from containers, etc.
>
> There was interest in ensuring that this wasn't something special-cased
> to UEFI Secure Boot, so using a capability seemed like the most
> straightforward way - it's fundamentally a restriction on what an
> otherwise privileged user is able to do, so it seemed like it fit the
> model. But I'm not wed to it in the slightest, and in fact it causes
> problems for some userspace (anything that drops all capabilities
> suddenly finds itself unable to do something that it expects to be able
> to do), so if anyone has any suggestions for a better approach…
I don't find it unreasonable to drop all caps and lose access to
sensitive things. :) That's sort of the point, really. I think a cap
is the best match. It seems like it should either be a cap or a
namespace flag, but the latter seems messy.
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-08 21:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-08 19:12 [PATCH] x86: Lock down MSR writing in secure boot Kees Cook
2013-02-08 19:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 19:18 ` Kees Cook
2013-02-08 19:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 20:14 ` Kees Cook
2013-02-08 20:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 20:28 ` Kees Cook
2013-02-08 20:34 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-08 21:02 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2013-02-08 21:07 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-08 21:14 ` Josh Boyer
2013-02-08 23:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-02-08 22:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 23:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-08 23:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-09 1:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-09 1:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-09 6:45 ` Kees Cook
2013-02-09 9:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-09 15:10 ` Kees Cook
2013-02-09 15:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 0:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 5:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 6:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 6:27 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 6:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 6:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 17:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 17:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 17:51 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-02-13 17:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 18:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 18:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 22:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 22:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-02-14 0:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-14 0:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-02-14 1:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-14 1:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-14 2:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-14 1:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-02-13 8:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-13 17:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 17:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 19:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-13 22:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 19:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-08 19:21 ` Kees Cook
2013-02-08 19:27 ` Matthew Garrett
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