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From: patrick wang <patrick.wang.shcn@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: paulmck@kernel.org, frederic@kernel.org,
	quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	joel@joelfernandes.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu: ftrace: avoid tracing a few functions executed in multi_cpu_stop()
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 18:45:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGcnep9Ez-S962vukR_a=otzcSxDRo5HUW2vG_YCBanCfURGXw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220421085047.2cb8edf9@gandalf.local.home>

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:50 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 19:36:06 +0800
> patrick wang <patrick.wang.shcn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:26 AM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:44:54 -0400
> > > Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting. On x86 when we used stop machine[*] it was not an issue to
> > > modify the code that is being executed in stop machine. I'm curious to
> > > exactly what the issue is if something does get traced in the stop machine
> > > processing. Why does it crash?
> >
> > I looked up the commit history. When x86 turned to breakpoints, stop
> > machine's state machine loop had no calls during waiting. So there
> > was no function being called during modifying code. Which means
> > there were no other cpus would load those instructions to be updated
> > in this period. While the stop machine currently will call other functions
> > and the call chain is fairly deep. So it may not quite be suitable for ftrace
> > now because it can not make sure the instructions within its own call
> > chain are updated atomically.
>
> Are you saying that the RISC-V stop machine implementation has code being
> called on the other CPUs while they wait?
>

Yes, and not just RISC-V. It's arch-independent. It's the internal change of
stop machine implementation.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Former stop machine wait loop:
do {
    cpu_relax(); => macro
    ...
} while (curstate != STOPMACHINE_EXIT);
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Current stop machine wait loop:
do {
    stop_machine_yield(cpumask); => function (notraced)
    ...
    touch_nmi_watchdog(); => function (notraced, inside calls also notraced)
    ...
    rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle(); => function (notraced, inside calls traced)
} while (curstate != MULTI_STOP_EXIT);
------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks,
Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-18  4:37 [PATCH] rcu: ftrace: avoid tracing a few functions executed in multi_cpu_stop() Patrick Wang
2022-04-18 16:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-18 18:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-19  4:06   ` patrick wang
2022-04-20 10:34     ` patrick wang
2022-04-20 15:44       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-20 16:26         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-21 11:36           ` patrick wang
2022-04-21 12:50             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-22 10:45               ` patrick wang [this message]
2022-04-22 15:52                 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-04-23  9:43                   ` patrick wang

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