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From: Atish Kumar Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 45/48] RISC-V: ioremap: Implement for arch specific ioremap hooks
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2023 13:30:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHBxVyHg7vTaQJWKoVSD8budVZEYSo1eDOyZyZK7gcJApR7SbA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81c476f4-ef62-e4a6-0033-8a46a15379fd@intel.com>

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 7:18 PM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/21/23 12:24, Atish Kumar Patra wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 3:46 AM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:>> This callback appears to say to the host:
> >>
> >>         Hey, I (the guest) am treating this guest physical area as MMIO.
> >>
> >> But the host and guest have to agree _somewhere_ what the MMIO is used
> >> for, not just that it is being used as MMIO.
> >
> > Yes. The TSM (TEE Security Manager) which is equivalent to TDX also
> > needs to be aware of the MMIO regions so that it can forward the
> > faults accordingly. Most of the MMIO is emulated in the host
> > (userspace or kernel emulation if present). The host is outside the
> > trust boundary of the guest. Thus, guest needs to make sure the host
> > only emulates the designated MMIO region. Otherwise, it opens an
> > attack surface from a malicious host.
> How does this mechanism stop the host from emulating something outside
> the designated region?
>
> On TDX, for instance, the guest page table have a shared/private bit.
> Private pages get TDX protections to (among other things) keep the page
> contents confidential from the host.  Shared pages can be used for MMIO
> and don't have those protections.
>
> If the host goes and tries to flip a page from private->shared, TDX
> protections will kick in and prevent it.
>
> None of this requires the guest to tell the host where it expects MMIO
> to be located.
>
> > All other confidential computing solutions also depend on guest
> > initiated MMIO as well. AFAIK, the TDX & SEV relies on #VE like
> > exceptions to invoke that while this patch is similar to what pkvm
> > does. This approach lets the enlightened guest control which MMIO
> > regions it wants the host to emulate.
>
> I'm not _quite_ sure what "guest initiated" means.  But SEV and TDX
> don't require an ioremap hook like this.  So, even if they *are* "guest
> initiated", the question still remains how they work without this patch,
> or what they are missing without it.
>

Maybe I misunderstood your question earlier. Are you concerned about guests
invoking any MMIO region specific calls in the ioremap path or passing
that information to the host ?
Earlier, I assumed the former but it seems you are also concerned
about the latter as well. Sorry for the confusion in that case.
The guest initiation is necessary while the host notification can be
made optional.
The "guest initiated" means the guest tells the TSM (equivalent of TDX
module in RISC-V) the MMIO region details.
The TSM keeps a track of this and any page faults that happen in that
region are forwarded
to the host by the TSM after the instruction decoding. Thus TSM can
make sure that only ioremapped regions are
considered MMIO regions. Otherwise, all memory outside the guest
physical region will be considered as the MMIO region.

In the current CoVE implementation, that MMIO region information is also
passed to the host to provide additional flexibility. The host may
choose to do additional
sanity check and bail if the fault address does not belong to
requested MMIO regions without
going to the userspace. This is purely an optimization and may not be mandatory.


> > It can be a subset of the region's host provided the layout. The
> > guest device filtering solution is based on this idea as well [1].
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210930010511.3387967-1-sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com/
>
> I don't really see the connection.  Even if that series was going
> forward (I'm not sure it is) there is no ioremap hook there.  There's
> also no guest->host communication in that series.  The guest doesn't
> _tell_ the host where the MMIO is, it just declines to run code for
> devices that it didn't expect to see.
>

This is a recent version of the above series from tdx github. This is
a WIP as well and has not been posted to
the mailing list. Thus, it may be going under revisions as well.
As per my understanding the above ioremap changes for TDX mark the
ioremapped pages as shared.
The guest->host communication happen in the #VE exception handler
where the guest converts this to a hypercall by invoking TDG.VP.VMCALL
with an EPT violation set. The host would emulate an MMIO address if
it gets an VMCALL with EPT violation.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

As I said above, the objective here is to notify the TSM where the
MMIO is. Notifying the host
is just an optimization that we choose to add. In fact, in this series
the KVM code doesn't do anything with that information.
The commit text probably can be improved to clarify that.


> I'm still rather confused here.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-25  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-19 22:16 [RFC 00/48] RISC-V CoVE support Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 01/48] mm/vmalloc: Introduce arch hooks to notify ioremap/unmap changes Atish Patra
2023-04-20 19:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-20 22:01     ` Atish Kumar Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 02/48] RISC-V: KVM: Improve KVM error reporting to the user space Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 03/48] RISC-V: KVM: Invoke aia_update with preempt disabled/irq enabled Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 04/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add a helper function to get pgd size Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 05/48] RISC-V: Add COVH SBI extensions definitions Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 06/48] RISC-V: KVM: Implement COVH SBI extension Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 07/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add a barebone CoVE implementation Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 08/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add UABI to support static memory region attestation Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 09/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add CoVE related nacl helpers Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 10/48] RISC-V: KVM: Implement static memory region measurement Atish Patra
2023-04-20 15:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-21 18:50     ` Atish Kumar Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 11/48] RISC-V: KVM: Use the new VM IOCTL for measuring pages Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 12/48] RISC-V: KVM: Exit to the user space for trap redirection Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 13/48] RISC-V: KVM: Return early for gstage modifications Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 14/48] RISC-V: KVM: Skip dirty logging updates for TVM Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 15/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add a helper function to trigger fence ops Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 16/48] RISC-V: KVM: Skip most VCPU requests for TVMs Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 17/48] RISC-V : KVM: Skip vmid/hgatp management " Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 18/48] RISC-V: KVM: Skip TLB " Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 19/48] RISC-V: KVM: Register memory regions as confidential " Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 20/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add gstage mapping " Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 21/48] RISC-V: KVM: Handle SBI call forward from the TSM Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 22/48] RISC-V: KVM: Implement vcpu load/put functions for CoVE guests Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 23/48] RISC-V: KVM: Wireup TVM world switch Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 24/48] RISC-V: KVM: Update timer functionality for TVMs Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 25/48] RISC-V: KVM: Skip HVIP update " Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 26/48] RISC-V: Add COVI extension definitions Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 27/48] RISC-V: KVM: Implement COVI SBI extension Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 28/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add interrupt management functions for TVM Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 29/48] RISC-V: KVM: Skip AIA CSR updates for TVMs Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 30/48] RISC-V: KVM: Perform limited operations in hardware enable/disable Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:16 ` [RFC 31/48] RISC-V: KVM: Indicate no support user space emulated IRQCHIP Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 32/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add AIA support for TVMs Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 33/48] RISC-V: KVM: Hookup TVM VCPU init/destroy Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 34/48] RISC-V: KVM: Initialize CoVE Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 35/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add TVM init/destroy calls Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 36/48] RISC-V: KVM: Read/write gprs from/to shmem in case of TVM VCPU Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 37/48] RISC-V: Add COVG SBI extension definitions Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 38/48] RISC-V: Add CoVE guest config and helper functions Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 39/48] RISC-V: Implement COVG SBI extension Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 40/48] RISC-V: COVE: Add COVH invalidate, validate, promote, demote and remove APIs Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 41/48] RISC-V: KVM: Add host side support to handle COVG SBI calls Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 42/48] RISC-V: Allow host to inject any ext interrupt id to a CoVE guest Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 43/48] RISC-V: Add base memory encryption functions Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 44/48] RISC-V: Add cc_platform_has() for RISC-V for CoVE Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 45/48] RISC-V: ioremap: Implement for arch specific ioremap hooks Atish Patra
2023-04-20 22:15   ` Dave Hansen
2023-04-21 19:24     ` Atish Kumar Patra
2023-04-24 13:48       ` Dave Hansen
2023-04-25  8:00         ` Atish Kumar Patra [this message]
2023-04-25 13:10           ` Dave Hansen
2023-04-26  8:02             ` Atish Kumar Patra
2023-04-26 10:30               ` Anup Patel
2023-04-26 13:55                 ` Andrew Bresticker
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 46/48] riscv/virtio: Have CoVE guests enforce restricted virtio memory access Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 47/48] RISC-V: Add shared bounce buffer to support DBCN for CoVE Guest Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:17 ` [RFC 48/48] drivers/hvc: sbi: Disable HVC console for TVMs Atish Patra
2023-04-19 22:58 ` [RFC 00/48] RISC-V CoVE support Atish Patra
2023-04-20 16:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-20 19:13   ` Atish Kumar Patra
2023-04-20 20:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-21 15:35   ` Michael Roth
2023-04-24 12:23 ` Christophe de Dinechin

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