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From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Chris Wilson" <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Claudio Imbrenda" <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Skip opportunistic reclaim for dma pinned pages
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:23:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkoy2kz7yirch7t9ruzJjNTyCCZHJFZst7OEz_DdmQyaaA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200624192116.GO6578@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:21 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 08:14:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > A general rule of thumb is that shrinkers should be fast and effective.
> > They are called from direct reclaim at the most incovenient of times when
> > the caller is waiting for a page. If we attempt to reclaim a page being
> > pinned for active dma [pin_user_pages()], we will incur far greater
> > latency than a normal anonymous page mapped multiple times. Worse the
> > page may be in use indefinitely by the HW and unable to be reclaimed
> > in a timely manner.
>
> A pinned page can't be migrated, discarded or swapped by definition -
> it would cause data corruption.
>
> So, how do things even get here and/or work today at all? I think the
> explanation is missing something important.

The __remove_mapping() will try to freeze page count if the count is
expected otherwise just not discard the page. I'm not quite sure why
the check is done that late, my wild guess is to check the refcount at
the last minute so there might be a chance the pin gets released right
before it.

But I noticed a bug in __remove_ampping() for THP since THP's dma
pinned count is recorded in the tail page's hpage_pinned_refcount
instead of refcount. So, the refcount freeze might be successful for
pinned THP.  Chris's patch could solve this issue too, but I'm not
sure if it is worth backing earlier once dma pinned page is met. If it
is worth, the follow-up question is why not just skip such page in
scan phase?

>
> Jason
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-24 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-24 19:14 [PATCH] mm: Skip opportunistic reclaim for dma pinned pages Chris Wilson
2020-06-24 19:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-24 20:23   ` Yang Shi [this message]
2020-06-24 21:02     ` Yang Shi
2020-06-24 20:47   ` John Hubbard
2020-06-24 23:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-25  0:11       ` John Hubbard
2020-06-25 11:24         ` Jan Kara
2020-06-25  7:57 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]   ` <159308284703.4527.16058577374955415124@build.alporthouse.com>
2020-06-25 15:12     ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-25 11:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-25 13:40   ` Jan Kara
2020-06-25 16:05     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-25 16:32   ` Yang Shi

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